Eric,
> On May 18, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de
> <mailto:e.a...@jpberlin.de>> wrote:
>
>
> I would like to agree with Tom: It is good that FreeDOS comes
> with a nice collection of drivers for modern hardware! Those
> times when a DOS driver was included when people bought their
> CD drive have long passed. Also, there are no reasons to limit
> our distro to those minimal features of a few MS DOS disks ;-)
I am more than happy to include any suitable open source drivers.
>
>>> an operating system without CDROM and network drivers doesn't sound
>>> very useful to me, even if everything has the correct license. YMMV.
>>
>> I think that the key is to perceive FreeDOS as a replacement to MSDOS,
>> nothing else (that is, "BASE")...
>
> It is good to have a BASE download (probably with "live CD" or
> "live USB stick" function, not requiring but allowing install
> to other disks) if you want a basic no-nonsense system. Still
> I would like to see drivers included even in such a download.
>
>> But then, for actually useful (practical) stuff, one has to rely on a
>> FreeDOS distribution, like Svarog386, or collect the required "non-free"
>> bits by hand over the internet.
>
> It also is good to have a FreeDOS distro which contains a pile
> of nice useful free software, if possible fully open source. I
> think IBIBLIO also requires open source for the file hosting.
>
> I would NOT want the FreeDOS distro to be limited by extremely
> specific license taste. As far as I am concerned, GPL 2 and 3,
> MIT, Artistic license, BSD license, public domain etc. are all
> perfectly fine for inclusion of packages in our normal distro.
>
>> Otherwise I agree it can get a bit frustrating for actual users,
>> and that's the reason I started Svarog386 in the first place.
>
> Looking at your package listing, Svarog386 is quite nice, but we
> should not give up the hope of having a nice plain FreeDOS distro.
>
> Jerome, could you make a list of packages which existed in either
> FreeDOS 1.0 or 1.1 but are not currently included in 1.2, along
> with the reason for exclusion? I think we should indeed be a bit
> more generous regarding inclusion of packages! Thanks :-)
>
> Regards, Eric
>
Except for the following packages all other dropped and questionable packages
are listed at the beginning of this thread. This list of packages shipped with
1.1 and are not presently in 1.2. None of these packages are on the ibiblio
repo for version 1.1 either. I have not put any work into trying to include
these packages as of yet.
DOSUTIL, No sources present in package. Might be buried on repos somewhere.
RIPCORD, FreeDOS release related program, Compatibility not tested.
SAMCFG, I don’t know if it is applicable anymore.
SYSLNX, There has to be a newer version, not in repo for 1.1.
WATTCP, No Source files present
CALLVER, FLASHR, SHIELD and UPX not in repo for 1.1
Almost all of the dropped packages in the top of this thread, never shipped
with FreeDOS. However, they are on the Repo for v1.1.
FreeDOS 1.1 shipped with 80 packages total, 1.2 ships with 97 the slim USB and
232 on the big USB.
Well, this was the complete list of packages included with FreeDOS 1.1, all 80
of them.
BASE\APPENDX
BASE\ASSIGNX
BASE\ATTRIBX
BASE\CDRCACHX
BASE\CHKDSKX
BASE\CHOICEX
BASE\COMMANDX
BASE\COMPX
BASE\CPIDOSX
BASE\CTMOUSEX
BASE\CWSDPMIX
BASE\DEBUGX
BASE\DEFRAG
BASE\DELTREEX
BASE\DEVLOADX
BASE\DISKCPYX
BASE\DISPLAYX
BASE\DOSFSCKX
BASE\DSKCOMPX
BASE\EDITX
BASE\EDLINX
BASE\EXE2BINX
BASE\FASTHLPX
BASE\FCX
BASE\FDAPMX
BASE\FDISKX
BASE\FDPKGX
BASE\FDUPDATX
BASE\FINDX
BASE\FORMATX
BASE\FOURDOSX
BASE\FXMS286X
BASE\GRAPHICX
BASE\HELPX
BASE\HIMEMXX
BASE\INFOZIPX
BASE\INSTALLX
BASE\JEMMEXX
BASE\KERNELX
BASE\KEYBX
BASE\LABELX
BASE\LBACACHX
BASE\LOCALIZX
BASE\MEMX
BASE\MIRRORX
BASE\MODEX
BASE\MOREX
BASE\MOVEX
BASE\MTCPX
BASE\NANSI
BASE\NLSFUNCX
BASE\PRINTQX
BASE\PRINTX
BASE\RECOVERX
BASE\REPLACEX
BASE\RIPCORDX
BASE\SAMCFGX
BASE\SHAREX
BASE\SHSUCDXX
BASE\SORTX
BASE\SUBSTX
BASE\TREEX
BASE\UIDEX
BASE\UNDELX
BASE\UNFMTX
BASE\USBDOSX
BASE\XCOPYX
BASE\XMGRX
BOOT\SYSLNXX
GUI\FDSHELLX
NET\WATTCPX
NET\WGETX
BASE\DOSUTILX
UTIL\BOOTFIXX
UTIL\CALLVERX
UTIL\DOSLFNX
UTIL\FLASHRX
UTIL\FSHIELDX
UTIL\UPXX
UTIL\VMSMNTX
And here is the list of packages on the Large USB Stick. All, 232 of them.
; BASE Packages
archiver\unzip
archiver\zip
base\append
base\assign
base\attrib
base\chkdsk
base\choice
base\command
base\comp
base\cpidos
base\ctmouse
base\debug
base\defrag
base\deltree
base\devload
base\diskcomp
base\diskcopy
base\display
base\dosfsck
base\edit
base\edlin
base\exe2bin
base\fc
base\fdapm
base\fdisk
base\fdxms
base\fdxms286
base\find
base\format
base\help
base\himemx
base\jemm
base\kernel32
base\keyb
base\keyb_lay
base\label
base\lbacache
base\mem
base\mirror
base\mkeyb
base\mode
base\more
base\move
base\nansi
base\nlsfunc
base\print
base\recover
base\replace
base\share
base\shsucdx
base\sort
base\swsubst
base\tree
base\undelete
base\unformat
base\welcome
base\xcopy
util\cwsdpmi
util\fdnpkg
util\graphics
util\shsufdrv
util\udvd2
util\v8power
; ALL Packages
archiver\bz2
archiver\gzip
archiver\lzip
archiver\lzma
archiver\lzop
archiver\tar
edit\msedit
util\4dos
util\bmp2png
util\bootfix
util\cdrcache
util\cpied
util\daa2iso
util\dos32a
util\doslfn
util\fdimples
util\foxcalc
util\gnubc
util\grep
util\less
util\localize
util\md5sum
util\part
util\pg
util\slowdown
util\srdisk
util\tee
util\touch
util\usbdos
util\which
util\xdel
util\xfdisk
util\zerofill
; EXTRA Packages
archiver\arj
archiver\cabext
archiver\lha
archiver\lpq1
archiver\p7zip
archiver\unrar
base\kernel
base\kernel16
devel\bcc
devel\bwbasic
devel\cpp2ccmt
devel\djgpp
devel\djgpp_bn
devel\djgpp_bs
devel\djgpp_db
devel\djgpp_fq
devel\djgpp_fx
devel\djgpp_gc
devel\djgpp_gp
devel\djgpp_mk
devel\djgpp_ob
devel\djgpp_rh
devel\djgpp_tx
devel\euphoria
devel\fasm
devel\fbc
devel\fbc_help
devel\fpc
devel\insight
devel\jwasm
devel\lua
devel\nasm
devel\nasm211
devel\ow
devel\perl
devel\regina
devel\runtime
devel\upx
edit\blocek
edit\doshexed
edit\e3
edit\elvis
edit\fed
edit\mbedit
edit\pico
edit\tde
edit\uhex
emulator\meka
emulator\mines
emulator\nosefart
emulator\simcoupe
emulator\sneese
emulator\teo
emulator\vice
emulator\z26
emulator\zboy
emulator\zsnes
games\bolitare
games\boom
games\btitanic
games\eliza
games\empong
games\ewsnake
games\fmines
games\freedoom
games\frotz
games\gnuchess
games\hangman
games\ivan
games\kiloblas
games\kraptor
games\lincrawl
games\liquiwar
games\magnetic
games\mirmagic
games\nethack
games\nge_nibb
games\psrinvad
games\qtetris
games\snova
games\sudoku86
games\vertigo
games\vitetris
games\wing
games\ww1
games\zmiy
net\dillo
net\ethtools
net\gopherus
net\htget
net\mtcp
net\ntool
net\picosntp
net\picotcp
net\rsync
net\vmsmount
net\vncview
net\wget
sound\adplay
sound\bladeenc
sound\dosmid
sound\lame
sound\mplayer
sound\opencp
util\ansimat
util\b64
util\clamav
util\clamdb
util\dn2
util\doszip
util\fdshell
util\foxtype
util\gifsicle
util\hexcomp
util\hip
util\hiram
util\localcfg
util\lptdrv
util\ntfs
util\opengem
util\ozonegui
util\password
util\pbox
util\pcisleep
util\pgme
util\pngcrush
util\seal
util\search
util\sqlite
util\terminal
util\testdisk
util\unrtf
util\utf8tocp
util\wde
util\xgrep
Jerome
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