actually there is so much that p***** me off about this and really pleased
we pulled freeVSD as an offer because you guys at Idaya are not in step with
the our world

> freeVSD-1.4.10 is, and always has been available to anyone, free of charge
> and courtesy of IDAYA via anonymous CVS. In the early days of open-source
> software this was typically the only form in which software was available
> and wholly fulfills the obligation of the GPL to make source code
available.

nice one guys wouldn't want you not fullfilling your obligations but I think
you missed the point.

> IDAYA has chosen not to make available a source tarball or produce RPMs of
> the freeVSD-1.4.10 release at this time. This has been done in order to
> encourage people to purchase the freeVSD CDROM.

at least you're admitting it

>You will all understand the
> time and effort in building a freeVSD server, for a small fee we are
making
> the CDROM available, giving the option to people who want to purchase it
of
> saving enormous time and effort that could be better utilised. You are
free
> to obtain the GPL source via CVS and expend the necessary time and effort
> yourself. I should also point out that when it comes to installation on
> remote servers I am not sure what we can additionally provide beyond the
> RPMs and pre-built skels we are making available on the second CDROM.

but you've just said you are not providing the RPM's - and who's saving time
and effort - we are a commercial web host who were using freeVSd until this
fiasco but your CD is no good to us, thanks a lot, maybe if I was playing
around with freeVSD in my office at lunchtime it may be okay...but you guys
have a strange idea about web hosts

> In the future, the latest versions of freeVSD software will initially be
> made available for purchase on CDROM. Packaged versions of the latest
> release will, at a later date, be made available for download via ftp from
> freevsd.org. All releases and ongoing freeVSD development will continue to
> be available for download via anonymous CVS. At a later date I hope it
will
> possible for IDAYA to make available packaged versions of the latest
> releases and even iso images. Unfortunately, at present, it is not.

Of course to do that you have to sell products and make profit and be in
business and who's going to buy the stuff if they can't use it?

> IDAYA have every intention of continuing the freeVSD project towards its
> stated goal of 'establishing freeVSD as the most advanced and finely tuned
> web hosting system available'.

by the way that is missing what was in the objective initially which was
'free' open source

> IDAYA will soon be launching a commercial release of freeVSD, named
proVSD,
> which, while based on freeVSD, offers considerable advatanges in terms of
> optimisation, functionality and support. We anticipate that proVSD will be
> the package of choice for serious web-hosting applications.

right, so we are not serious web hosts then, now I understand, I'll be sure
to inform our 3000 customers of that

> However, proVSD
> will not replace freeVSD. Those who continue to use freeVSD will continue
to
> benefit from the support, improvements and enhancements which will be
passed
> onto freeVSD from proVSD development work. This mirrors the arrangement of
> countless other open-source projects and means IDAYA will be continuing to
> serve the open-source community.

the scraps from the masters table...

> Tim Sellar
> Chief Technical Officer
> IDAYA Ltd
>
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