Hi,

Not wanting to get flamed or anything, but I've been here before,  isn't
this the bit where the code-base usually ends up forking?  There are many
ways to make money and still keep the code freely available (as in
freely/easily accessible), like dual licensing for instance.

This is often the natural evolutionary curve for OSS projects, I'll watch
with interest to see what happens.

Just my 2 cents

T.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wim Godden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: GPL or not?


> Tim Sellar wrote:
>
> > I would like to address a couple of the comments which have been posted
with
> > regard to the GPL status and availability of freeVSD-1.4.10.
> >
> > freeVSD-1.4.10 is, and always has been available to anyone, free of
charge
> > and courtesy of IDAYA via anonymous CVS. In the early days of
open-source
> > software this was typically the only form in which software was
available
> > and wholly fulfills the obligation of the GPL to make source code
available.
>
> ok, I don't want to be a pain in the ass, but explain this to me :
> - You don't release .tar.gz files anymore
> - You do have anonymous CVS available
> - People can simply make .tar.gz files from anonymous CVS
>
> Then why the heck don't you simply make .tar.gz files ?
>
> > IDAYA will soon be launching a commercial release of freeVSD, named
proVSD,
> > which, while based on freeVSD, offers considerable advatanges in terms
of
> > optimisation, functionality and support. We anticipate that proVSD will
be
> > the package of choice for serious web-hosting applications. However,
proVSD
> > will not replace freeVSD. Those who continue to use freeVSD will
continue to
> > benefit from the support, improvements and enhancements which will be
passed
> > onto freeVSD from proVSD development work. This mirrors the arrangement
of
> > countless other open-source projects and means IDAYA will be continuing
to
> > serve the open-source community.
>
> proVSD will be based on freeVSD... in what way ? Will proVSD use the same
code,
> but simply extend it ? If that's the case, proVSD has to be released as
GPL as
> well.
>
> I understand your problems very well... But you should realize that, once
you've
> started an open source project, there's no turning back. I've had the same
> problem with an open source project which was taking a lot of time to
maintain
> and not earning me any money. What I did was simply ask for more open
source
> developers, spend less time working on it (I did nothing more than just
> coordinate everything) and concentrate on earning money with it. I built
the
> basics, others improved it, so we all did our job. And we all made money
out of
> it.
> People who discovered freeVSD through some kind of link were always able
to
> download it and try it. But when you start pulling everything away from
people
> who 'may be interested', they will immediately back off. They want to try
the
> software before they spend money, even if it's very cheap. And I don't
think you
> can blame them, can you ?
>
> Personally, I'm very interested in deploying freeVSD on a large scale, but
it
> needs a lot more work before I can get that done. I'm willing to implement
these
> features :
> - Load balancing for Apache, Qmail and MySQL (all 3 tested so far and
working
> fine outside freeVSD)
> - Failover system guaranteeing 100% uptime for Apache, Qmail and MySQL
with
> shared disk array (MySQL is tough on shared disk array though, still
working on
> that)
> - Use of a distributed file system with replication, again adding to the
> redundancy of the solution
> These are the reasons why I was asking for a clear layout of how freeVSD
was
> designed last week. I had the intention to begin development as soon as
possible.
> But seeing how things are evolving now, I might as well throw all those
ideas
> away and start building a new virtual server system, specifically designed
for
> 100% availability.
>
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