I think in your situation then the solution would be:

$149 - cost of CD
$25 - cost of ftp'ing software (RPM and skel) contained on CD to remote
server
$5 - installation performed on server remotely via SSH

Alternatively you may produce an RPM yourself from the available source,
generate a suitable skel yourself and save that initial cost of the CD. The
intention of the bootable installation CD is to provide a very simple
non-technical installation. That was the brief. You are after a different
distribution medium - you just want the RPMs available for download. This is
entirely possible, but levying a useful charge for it is problematic. Hence
the CD. I too regard the current situation as unsatisfactory and hope to be
able to make future RPMS available in the normal manner.

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Johan Pretorius
> Sent: 03 November 2001 08:45
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: GPL or not?
>
>
> Tim,
>
> >>
> I am afraid you need to explain your argument more clearly. As an ISP with
> servers hosted remotely you say the current freeVSD CDROM is of no use to
> you. If you want RPMS of the latest release, with relevant RedHat errata,
> and a choice of the latest pre-built skels for RH6 and RH7 to install on
> your remote server they are available on the freeVSD CDROM.
> >>
>
> Take our example - we are based in South Africa, and lease some servers
> in the USA, all of which are pre-loaded with the OS.  The effort involved
> in getting the CD installed is not worth it:
>
> $149 - cost of CD
> $?   - arranging delivery, ensuring CD is delivered to proper
> dept, etc, etc
> $250 - service charges from ISP to install CD (and this a conservative
> estimate)
>
> Total - in the region of $500
>
> Let's look at the download option:
>
> $50 - cost of software (example)
> $10 - ISP/Telco charges for download of software
> $0  - installation done by person leasing the server (ok, this wil take
> time,
>       but at least it does not mean forking out money)
>
> Total - $60
>
> Hope this will give you some understanding of the client's perspective ...
>
> >>
> It would appear from your response that you want some (all?) of the above,
> but do not wish to pay for it. Please correct me if this is not
> the case. If
> it is the case, why do you feel that the work which has gone into
> developing, producing and testing these packages (and
> particularly skels) by
> the IDAYA team of developers does not warrant any sort of payment. You
> appear to be fairly incensed that we are requiring you to perform the
> following in order to obtain your software for nothing:
> >>
>
> Wrong - but it is clear that there is a lot of mis-understanding
> that needs
> to be cleared up.
>
> >>
> If I actually intended to use some software, and crucially
> _make_money_out_of_doing_ so_, I don't think I would let that stand in my
> way.
> >>
>
> Nope - but not all of us were aware of this option ...
>
> Rgrds,
>
> Johan Pretorius
>
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>
>
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