Oh dear. I have to read bedau again. Gawd what a muddle.
Back to you in a few days. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University ([email protected]) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > [Original Message] > From: russell standish <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> > Date: 6/12/2009 3:17:44 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] quick question > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:01:38PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > Steve, > > > > My understanding of the meaning of "strong" emergence is "inexplicable > > emergence". > > > > Is there another meaning? > > > > N > > Bedau defines it as emergence with downward causation. For example, we would say > that consciousness is strongly emergent if we felt that we could > consciously influence the activities of our neurons, rather than > simply our consciousness simply being the result of neuronal activity. > > I'm not sure this notion has any use in discussions other than > consciousness, and even there the notion of epiphenomenalism would say > that it is void concept. > > Cheers > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Mathematics > UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [email protected] > Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
