George, 

you are, of course, absolutely correct. 

That is always a weakness to the PD story, which is, at base, a really stupid 
way to think about cooperation issues.  It is one of those ideas which was sort 
of cute at the time, got into all the text books, and has been drilled into the 
heads of two generations of students, but really doesnt adequately represent 
the crucial variables in the situation and should have been dropped about two 
decades ago.   It is a case of scientific mob thinking at its absolute worst.  

The tragedy of the commons model is much clearer and avoids all the cutsy 
language that has been promoted by people who know bfa about prisoners and 
their dilemmas. 

Nick 

 

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, 
Clark University ([email protected])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]




----- Original Message ----- 
From: George Duncan 
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Sent: 4/3/2010 3:11:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot Science Story | Twins' DNA Foils Police


What makes this not a Prisoner's Dilemma is there is no incentive for James to 
rat on John and no incentive for John to rat on James.  James and John have an 
optimal strategy of stonewalling. 

Poor prosecutor! Hard to see how the prosecutor can set up a Prisoner's Dilemma 
here, at least without deception.


On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:

Now here's a new twist on the Prisoner's Dilemma:
   http://slashdot.org/story/10/04/03/1539224/

   -- Owen



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