Actually the question was about the nurse :-) and (from my understanding) the dynamics of medicine is such that nurses *don't* give doctors feedback on things like this. So the good advice here (which i agree with) would need to be passed onto the doctor directly
Curt On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: > Perhaps the first step needs to be "How sensitive is this patient to > bedside manner?", and from that estimate then prioritize the relative > timing of one sort of analysis over another. I assume I'm dealing with an > intelligent, if imperfect, person. I think it takes some self-control to > be a good patient, too. > > On 7/13/18, 9:13 AM, "Friam on behalf of ∄ uǝʃƃ" < > friam-boun...@redfish.com on behalf of geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Perhaps. But if that's the case, I would immediately leave and find > another Dr. As I explained before, and is peppered throughout Renee's > training, the "assessment of the patient", which involves really *looking* > at the patient, is more powerful than any other (set of) metric(s). > > To be clear, the patient assessment machine can be completely > autistic. But they must "assess the patient" by looking at her. > > On 07/13/2018 08:06 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Is it not possible the doctor looking at her computer is just like > Glen listening to music without moving? Focusing on the facts of the > matter and not on distracting emotional signals? > > > > On 7/13/18, 9:03 AM, "Friam on behalf of ∄ uǝʃƃ" < > friam-boun...@redfish.com on behalf of geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > For what it's worth, my Dr. thanked me after our 1st > interaction. He walked in with his laptop, sat down and started poking at > it. I then used my familiarity with electronic medical records (I was a > product mgr at such a company at one point) to finagle his attention and > demonstrate our mutual affinity for how computation can help him provide > good healthcare. I even explained how I'd looked him up online beforehand > and knew all the schools he went to and that he had no active malpractice > suits against him. (Which was no small feat since he's an immigrant from > India.) > > > > That interaction successfully grabbed his attention. Perhaps, > since you're also computer literate, you could use the same trick next time > a Dr's attention is too focused on the computer? > > > > On 07/13/2018 07:48 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > > It is a bigger problem that people are more concerned about > `getting along’ than they are about maintaining a functional government. > > > As for doctors, I don’t want them to my friend. I want them > to take their limited time and focus their extensive training, to > rationalize the symptoms I present. > > > > > > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Gillian > Densmore <gil.densm...@gmail.com> > > > Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > > > Date: Friday, July 13, 2018 at 8:39 AM > > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > > > Subject: [FRIAM] Weird observation > > > > > > While at doctor's office trying ask a nurse to politely > express to a doctor that it comes off as rude when that doc is obssed with > a computer gets a reaction like you've invented warp drive. > > > > > > Is it really that unusual for people to try to actively be > cordial these days? If so captian we got a problem! > > > -- > ∄ uǝʃƃ > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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