However fast programming is also about code reuse, and having a framework to
build the application in.  Fusebox-X can help make development even faster
as services such as security etc, can be implemented, independently of the
application code.  This makes 'contracting' out code to other developers
even simpler!

     << David Maddison >>
          wildfusion

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>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Hal Helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  Sent: 05 April 2001 04:34
>>  To: Fusebox
>>  Subject: RE: Fwd: extreme programming
>>  
>>  
>>  I agree, Steve. I think I've told everyone about the job I 
>>  worked on as
>>  architect using XFB. ALL the coding for a full ecommerce site
>>  (www.solutionssite.com) was done in less than 2 calendar 
>>  days by parsing out
>>  a BUNCH of fuses to a BUNCH of programmers who had no idea 
>>  what the site was
>>  about. They just fulfilled the "contract" of the Fusedoc 
>>  and it took me
>>  under 4 hours to "stitch" them together. Holy Moly--it worked!!
>>  
>>  I wrote an article for CFDJ on Extreme Programming some 
>>  time ago. I've found
>>  some of their ideas really excellent. In particular, pair 
>>  programming rocks
>>  the rockin' horse-house.
>>  
>>  Hal Helms
>>  Team Allaire
>>  [ See www.halhelms.com <http://www.halhelms.com>  for info 
>>  on training
>>  classes ]
>>  
>>  
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:38 PM
>>  To: Fusebox
>>  Subject: Re: Fwd: extreme programming
>>  
>>  
>>  The reason I've been studying extreme programming is my 
>>  latest goal in
>>  life is to disprove the mythical man month. The mythical 
>>  man month is a
>>  book that was written back in 1974 that explains that adding more
>>  manpower to a project does not linearly make the project go faster.
>>  
>>  I think with the combination of the concepts we've all come 
>>  up with in
>>  this Fusebox community and the ideas the extreme 
>>  programming community
>>  has come up with along with a handful of management tools, 
>>  I think it
>>  could be possible to break free of the mythical man month.
>>  
>>  Steve Nelson
>>  Try my CFML code tester for free!
>>  http://www.secretagents.com/tools/stomp/
>>  (804) 825-6093
>>  
>>  
>>  Daniel Daugherty wrote:
>>  >
>>  >   Steve
>>  >
>>  >   I agree with you.  I was looking at eXtreme Programming 
>>  explained at the
>>  > book store this weekend.  Reminded me very much of your 
>>  Fusebox Site in 10
>>  > days.  There are many aspects of it that I like.  Two 
>>  headed coding.
>>  > Automated testing (lots of testing) which helps with 
>>  Refactoring.  I think
>>  > we should not look at combining the two but making sure 
>>  that Fusebox can
>>  be
>>  > used with it well and maybe a best practices when combining the 2.
>>  Fusebox
>>  > fits well with the small modular routines and coding 
>>  standard that XP
>>  > requires.  I think the two go well together.  If anyone 
>>  does try do some
>>  > development with XP and Fusebox combined I would love to 
>>  hear what you
>>  > thought of it and how it worked for you.
>>  >
>>  > Daniel
>>  >
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:59 PM
>>  > To: Fusebox
>>  > Subject: Re: Fwd: extreme programming
>>  >
>>  > yeah this is cool stuff. My friend John Ashenfelter and I 
>>  (he's the
>>  > author of CF for dummies) started trying to create an 
>>  "Extreme Fusebox".
>>  > We haven't gotten very far with revolutionary stuff 
>>  though, a lot of the
>>  > techniques in extreme programming are pretty similar to 
>>  what we already
>>  > do in Fusebox.
>>  >
>>  > I think it could be very promising if we could combine the two
>>  > techniques together.
>>  >
>>  > Steve
>>  >
>>  > Ken Beard wrote:
>>  > >
>>  > > >
>>  > > >
>>  > >
>>  >
>>  ><http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-202-5424853.html>http://n
ews.cnet.com/new
> s/0-1006-202-5424853.html
> > >
> > >story on the "extreme programming" methodology
> >
> > Ken Beard
> > Manager, Application Development
> > Stone Ground Solutions
> > 5100 West Kennedy Blvd, Suite 430
> > Tampa FL  33602
> > 813.387.1235 voice
> > 866.767.4051 toll free
> > 813.387.1237 fax
> > www.stoneground.com
> >
> >
>
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