I bought and read the first of the three books. It is pretty quick read.
Some of the concepts go against the grain of a traditional waterfall-type
developer. But hey, this is web after all. Move, and move quickly. I like
the idea of team programming. I may be using these techniques on a CF/XML
project here in the near future.
---
Jeffrey B. Marsh
Professionals built the Titanic.
Amateurs built the Ark.
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:25 PM
To: Fusebox
Subject: Re: extreme programming
I just red this article and I was quite suprised. Our company just started
doing this on our most recent project. I didn't know it had a name or was
another methodology. I mean, after you do it for a week, it just seems
natural.
Our DBA, our Jr. developer and myself all sit in the same room. I sit down
with the Jr. developer and we code together. She learns some of the better
ways to do things from me while I learn some new things from her, in the
form of looking at how I do things from someone else's point of view. While
we are coding the CF end, the DBA is creating the database and writing the
stored procedures right behind us. This is a great technique since we all
get constant feedback about what each other is doing and can openly and
immediately communicate about what changes need to be made .. and those
changes can be made immdeiately.
Another great thing is that a lot of quality control is done durring the
coding. My partner and I could be tesing a new page and get a database
error. We turn around to the DBA and say "Your stored procedure is giving
this error". Then we go back to coding and don't have to think about it
again. 30 seconds later, the DBA turns around and says "That procedure is
fixed."
This project we are woking on now is a complete redo of one that we spent 6
months working on without using Extreme programming or Fusebox. The app
finaly got so messy and complicated that we decided to trash it and start
completely over. Now, by using a little Extreme programming and a LOT of
Fusebox, we are about to completely finish in 2 months, what took us 6
months to *almost* finish before. Keep in mind .. this is all while trying
to learn Fusebox and without reusing any of the old code. I should have
been programming like this a year ago ;)
Todd Ashworth --
Certified ColdFusion Developer
Network Administrator
Saber Corporation
314 Oakland Ave.
Rock Hill, SC 29730
(803) 327-0137 [111]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred T. Sanders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: extreme programming
| That was actually a really well written article. I even felt compelled to
| go to the XP website for further reading.
|
| here's a cleaned up url:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-202-5424853.html
| should cause less errors when going to cnet
|
| Fred
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