I agree to a point...It all depends on the up-front
work done on the site.
Where I work now, by the time a project gets to me,
even though 3 months of 'collecting business rules'
has passed, I still do not have anywhere near the type
of specs I need to complete the project.
However, because management blew the timeline taking 3
months to get me business rules, I usually have about
3 weeks to code the entire site and we do NOT use
Fusebox.
Management's solution to that problem here is to
simply throw more developers on my team, which does
not help one bit. Having more people to help code an
un-spec'd app does not help me one bit.
So, if you use Steve or Hal's methods, do the leg work
up front and really plan out the app, then I think it
could most definitely be turned around in 2 or 3 days
using a slew of developers (as Hal's example showed
us).
Now I just need to find a company that uses Fusebox
and is is trying or is open to trying these
techniques! Anyone hiring???
Nate
--- Steve Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The reason I've been studying extreme programming is
> my latest goal in
> life is to disprove the mythical man month. The
> mythical man month is a
> book that was written back in 1974 that explains
> that adding more
> manpower to a project does not linearly make the
> project go faster.
>
> I think with the combination of the concepts we've
> all come up with in
> this Fusebox community and the ideas the extreme
> programming community
> has come up with along with a handful of management
> tools, I think it
> could be possible to break free of the mythical man
> month.
>
> Steve Nelson
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>
>
> Daniel Daugherty wrote:
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > I agree with you. I was looking at eXtreme
> Programming explained at the
> > book store this weekend. Reminded me very much of
> your Fusebox Site in 10
> > days. There are many aspects of it that I like.
> Two headed coding.
> > Automated testing (lots of testing) which helps
> with Refactoring. I think
> > we should not look at combining the two but making
> sure that Fusebox can be
> > used with it well and maybe a best practices when
> combining the 2. Fusebox
> > fits well with the small modular routines and
> coding standard that XP
> > requires. I think the two go well together. If
> anyone does try do some
> > development with XP and Fusebox combined I would
> love to hear what you
> > thought of it and how it worked for you.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:59 PM
> > To: Fusebox
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: extreme programming
> >
> > yeah this is cool stuff. My friend John
> Ashenfelter and I (he's the
> > author of CF for dummies) started trying to create
> an "Extreme Fusebox".
> > We haven't gotten very far with revolutionary
> stuff though, a lot of the
> > techniques in extreme programming are pretty
> similar to what we already
> > do in Fusebox.
> >
> > I think it could be very promising if we could
> combine the two
> > techniques together.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Ken Beard wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
><http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-202-5424853.html>http://news.cnet.com/new
> > s/0-1006-202-5424853.html
> > > >
> > > >story on the "extreme programming" methodology
> > >
> > > Ken Beard
> > > Manager, Application Development
> > > Stone Ground Solutions
> > > 5100 West Kennedy Blvd, Suite 430
> > > Tampa FL 33602
> > > 813.387.1235 voice
> > > 866.767.4051 toll free
> > > 813.387.1237 fax
> > > www.stoneground.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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