I agree, Steve. I think I've told everyone about the job I worked on as
architect using XFB. ALL the coding for a full ecommerce site
(www.solutionssite.com) was done in less than 2 calendar days by parsing out
a BUNCH of fuses to a BUNCH of programmers who had no idea what the site was
about. They just fulfilled the "contract" of the Fusedoc and it took me
under 4 hours to "stitch" them together. Holy Moly--it worked!!

I wrote an article for CFDJ on Extreme Programming some time ago. I've found
some of their ideas really excellent. In particular, pair programming rocks
the rockin' horse-house.

Hal Helms
Team Allaire
[ See www.halhelms.com <http://www.halhelms.com>  for info on training
classes ]


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:38 PM
To: Fusebox
Subject: Re: Fwd: extreme programming


The reason I've been studying extreme programming is my latest goal in
life is to disprove the mythical man month. The mythical man month is a
book that was written back in 1974 that explains that adding more
manpower to a project does not linearly make the project go faster.

I think with the combination of the concepts we've all come up with in
this Fusebox community and the ideas the extreme programming community
has come up with along with a handful of management tools, I think it
could be possible to break free of the mythical man month.

Steve Nelson
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Daniel Daugherty wrote:
>
>   Steve
>
>   I agree with you.  I was looking at eXtreme Programming explained at the
> book store this weekend.  Reminded me very much of your Fusebox Site in 10
> days.  There are many aspects of it that I like.  Two headed coding.
> Automated testing (lots of testing) which helps with Refactoring.  I think
> we should not look at combining the two but making sure that Fusebox can
be
> used with it well and maybe a best practices when combining the 2.
Fusebox
> fits well with the small modular routines and coding standard that XP
> requires.  I think the two go well together.  If anyone does try do some
> development with XP and Fusebox combined I would love to hear what you
> thought of it and how it worked for you.
>
> Daniel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:59 PM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Re: Fwd: extreme programming
>
> yeah this is cool stuff. My friend John Ashenfelter and I (he's the
> author of CF for dummies) started trying to create an "Extreme Fusebox".
> We haven't gotten very far with revolutionary stuff though, a lot of the
> techniques in extreme programming are pretty similar to what we already
> do in Fusebox.
>
> I think it could be very promising if we could combine the two
> techniques together.
>
> Steve
>
> Ken Beard wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
><http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-202-5424853.html>http://news.cnet.com/new
> s/0-1006-202-5424853.html
> > >
> > >story on the "extreme programming" methodology
> >
> > Ken Beard
> > Manager, Application Development
> > Stone Ground Solutions
> > 5100 West Kennedy Blvd, Suite 430
> > Tampa FL  33602
> > 813.387.1235 voice
> > 866.767.4051 toll free
> > 813.387.1237 fax
> > www.stoneground.com
> >
> >
>
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