> <<<<<< Oh? There are firmware updates for peecee > compatible CDRWs based on which flavour of windoze > (Mitsumi and others I have seen).
Yes there are, what does that have to do with Apple maintaining backwards compatibility? You are talking about a 3rd party updating their product for use with the OS and hardware OEMs products. I don't get the connection, Apple hasn't been breaking support for 3rd party products ... > <<<< xlr8 has a fascinating database - but it is no > guarantee of compatibility. Linux drivers are widely > available (and this is something OSX could be in a > position to exploit?) for umpteen devices. It is evidence that Apple has continued to improve support for many legacy devices and technologies. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to I guess, but it is still true. One thing most Mac users have experienced is that AppleTalk printers have worked better over time, anyone use them with the Public Beta or 10.0.x? Wow, it was bad. My Apple Color OneScan works under 10.2.x perfectly while it did not under 10.0.x and 10.1.x. My Panasonic 8x20x CD-R SCSI drive began working under 10.1.3 while it did not work under previous versions. RagePro video support while obviously not on par with later graphics chip sets was dramatically improved with 10.1.5 when Apple added improved acceleration. You can blow off my statements, you can blow off the statements of other Mac users, but here is are the links to Apple's TILs where they state when further support was added for past and current hardware [both Apple's and 3rd parties]. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120080 10.1.1, among other things it enabled accelerated video mirroring in PowerBook G4s that had it in Mac OS 9. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106634 10.1.2, gave us better support for older Apple modems [ie modems in older Macs], big improvements in IrDA support, over all modem support, improved ethernet performance, improved DVD support, PC card support, printer and SCSI support. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120102 10.1.3 added more CDR and CDRW support and improved video and video mirroring on PowerBooks. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=122011 10.1.5, added DVD VGA out support for PowerBooks, 2D/3D RagePro acceleration, PC card storage devices and CDRs and CDRW drives that had worked in Mac OS 9 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120164 10.2.2, added increased SCSI device support [including my scanner :-)] But I know, Apple is lying right? I mean those OS updates didn't really improve performance or feature availability on anything but the currently shipping Macs right? Well, no, wrong, SCSI support improvements affected Beige G3s with built in SCSI more than G4s as most G4s did not ship with SCSI cards, and no Mac was shipping with a RagePro when these updates came out, but you can pretend if you will feel better. >> It's no surprise that xlr8 (or similar) went >> under, or their predecessor in Georgia (who first > made >> a multi-processor chip and compatible > accelerators). >> So now you see what "Think Different" implies. > > Accelerator manufactures have a price problem not an > Apple problem. Who > buys a dual 1GHz upgrade when a new dual system is > within $600 and > includes larger drives, more drives, more options, > and a faster > subsystem? Selling any G4 can bring in $600 or more > so it only makes > sense to sell and buy new instead up buying a > highend upgrade. ____________________________________________ > <<<< System specific OS install discs, alas, are still > with us. And they always will be unless new systems do not have new features. That is the point of the whole system, hardware is enabled to perform through software ... if Apple didn't release newer versions of Mac OS that support new hardware features it would mean we couldn't use them. > And SW is a critical 'transition' point. On a > recent deal-Mac thread, many graphics users are not > switching to OSX but staying with 9 simply because the > transition is not yet cost-efficient. The above quote was suppose to be a reply to how processor upgrade manufacturer's aren't doing well and you blame that on Apple? I don't get it, you just changed subjects ... Again, please think back to the PowerPC transition, there were great benefits to buying PowerPC native software, but it was a cost issue then to. What is your argument here? That Apple should force 3rd party graphics software developers like Adobe to sell Mac OS X native versions of their products cheaper? Or are you saying that Apple should not move to a next generation OS because it will cause upgrade costs for customers who want to use it? Either way I do not see any validity in your argument. You can run Photoshop 5 if you want, heck, you can run version 3, whatever, its your choice. It still works. Can it do as much as version 7, well no. But that is kinda common sense. And please clarify, how does this "it costs graphics people too much money to move to X" argument support your claim that Apple is forcing them to upgrade? Such cost actually makes it seem that they are discouraged from upgrading, that is counter to your primary argument ... > Thanks, David, for your input. 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