Hello Yersinia:

I like your approach, use a book, or two of them. This is not for some people, but neither is exploring in the dark for me. Some people can pick up a new machine or a new OS to install and instantly hunt/peck their way to success. Others who try this find disaster and help keep e-lists like this one interesting.

I waited til about a year after Panther was out to make the move. But first I bought David Pogue's OS X Panther Edition The Missing Manual and actually studied parts of it while making my notes on what I was about to do.

Working with two internal hard drives in my QuickSilver G4 733, I kept one intact with all the OS 9 stuff on one of its volumes. Set up the other drive in one volume for OS X Panther, with the option for OS 9 drivers. Copied all the OS 9 stuff to that drive. Deactivated a bunch of OS 9 extensions as listed by Pogue and on another list I found on-line. Made that modified OS 9 System Folder the choice for Classic. Set the preferences to start up Classic on Panther startup. Imported e-mail from Outlook Express to Mail. A few days later, imported the old Internet Explorer favorites to the new Internet Explorer. Then opened Safari (first time) which sucked in the favorites from the new IE. Other than checking a few things, never started up the old OS 9 again.

I think I understand your dilemma with the Beige and old peripherals. I skipped the G3 experience and jumped from a Performa 6300 to the G4, bringing along the Epson 740 printer which has both serial and USB, but I had to replace the SCSI scanner.

I know you've thought through all the various ways to go. But perhaps a few thoughts here could nudge you to doing something before it is too late. If I were in your shoes, my greatest fear would be that the Beige dies and that I'd have a really tough time getting my stuff out of it. And be forced to buy a new Mac at the worse possible time, with no planning for a smooth transition. Your peripherals won't last forever. As for your old files, you can copy them now to a newer machine. Old files may need MacLinkPlus to make readable in current software. Your old apps, you can copy them, and all or the greatest majority will work in Classic on a newer machine.

So what's a good strategy? Maybe a used, mid-level G4 tower with USB and Firewire. Maybe an adaptor for your old monitor. Maybe a Mini. Buy new USB peripherals to make sense of this. Maybe you need to run two machines for a while. Use ethernet to share files between both machines in realtime until you feel comfortable with everything on the newer machine.

Can you find someone with an iBook or Powerbook of recent vintage willing to load your apps and files in Classic just to test what happens?

Perhaps a few more details about your apps and peripherals would round out this discussion.

Al Poulin
Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us.

On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:59 AM, G-List wrote:

Subject: Re: [G] The Upgrade That Turned Into a Downgrade...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 00:48:53 -0400
From: yersinia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

David Elmo writes, on OS X vs. OS 9,

<You can't really tell and trust the difference from reading a book!>

Well, it's a starting point, isn't it? Especially for someone who wasn't actually going to risk putting it on her Mac? Now why would a 9.2.2 girl
like me want to read a book like that? In addition to simple curiosity,
in the event I ever do, for whatever reason, wind up using OS X, I'd
rather read the book BEFORE, for example, I make the sudden discovery on
an OS X Mac that my dearly beloved Apple Menu -- which as a Mac Classic
die-hard I can't live without -- is GONE. ("And what in the hell is
THIS...Dock thing?") Or that now if I want to make a new folder, it's
"SHIFT-command-N" instead of just "Command-N."

I hate nasty surprises, remember? Well, by having that book, should I
ever someday find myself on OS X, I believe I've cut down the odds I'll
run into them. Does this mean I'll actually like, or love OS X like so
many of our fellow listers? I don't know and can't say since I haven't
actually used it, but if not for my OTHER issues (Beige, old peripherals,
fear of losing old files and functionality of apps I'd have to run in
Classic mode instead of what I call "REAL Classic" if I had OS X), I'm no
longer afraid of the OS itself.


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