Hey Ralph,
     Which laptops are you talking about??? I have 4 clamshells one I bought 
brand new, the only problem I ever had was with the brand new one which was a 
demo display from Sears when they used to sell them... I had to have the HD 
replaced 6 months after I got it and it was because of all the miss use from 
customers who probably were not Apple people trying to use it... They all still 
run great!!! I have a lot of friends who own them and no one I know ever had 
trouble with them, G3's and G4's!!! Maybe it might be all the Intel Mac's that 
are having trouble??? Steve Jobs only went that route because he couldn't get 
the G5's to run in a laptop because of the heat it was producing and when his 
engineers couldn't come up with something he went to Intel, that's how I 
remember it!!! Was there more trouble with the so called Apple laptops then the 
PC's??? I remember fixing a whole bunch of PC's and never even had an Apple 
apart...  I also remember dropping my clamshells and they still would boot up 
and run great!!!   CoolKat

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ralph Green <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sep 1, 2009 9:47 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Next for PPC?
>
>
>Howdy,
> Some people run Linux on Macs because they appreciate some advantage of
>Linux as an OS and like some physical characteristic of the Apple
>hardware.  It may be styling.  The B&W G3 case is the best looking
>consumer tower PC ever made, as far as I am concerned.  At one time,
>Apple hardware was made better than most other PCs.  I am not saying it
>is bad now, just that I don't see any quality advantages.  I like Mac
>laptops, but they have one of the highest failure rates in the business.
>I know people who run Linux on PPC Apples for security reasons.  If you
>run into malicious web sites, you are really unlikely to find someone
>who coded it to handle a PPC Linux machine.  You can't depend on that
>alone, but it is another layer of security.  Some people do it to be
>different.  Sometimes, there is a practical reason.  I setup Linux on an
>old G3 iMac for a client once to act as a backup appleshare server.  The
>software we needed was not in OSX, but was in OSX server.  It was a
>temporary need, while a big server was down.  So, I just used Linux and
>it solved our need.
>  You are right that an interesting thing these days is that we can
>bring other operating systems to Mac hardware and unofficially, it is
>possible to bring the Apple OS to other hardware.  There is some nice
>symmetry there.  That's nice for me in the long run, because I don't
>ever see myself buying an Apple x86 machine.  Above OS choice, I am
>adamant about freedom and the treacherous firmware in the Apple x86
>machines is not something I would accept.  Not even if you gave me the
>machine would I accept it.
>Good luck and have some fun,
>Ralph
>
>On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 10:59 -0700, John Niven wrote:
>
>> Every time I approached loading Linux on a Mac I'd always ask myself why? It 
>> used to be that the unique thing about Macs was that they ran Mac OS!
>
>
>
>>


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