True time and in principal I agree with you.
But till we can get equal access with hardware and software and that sadly means right now that it needs to work with jaws or something like nvda or with scripts or something we will always be at a disadvantage.
There may not be any advantage going foreward depending on what we are doing.
Right now, I have no job in fact if the security factor, was not so much I'd still be using win xp.
Heck I may have been using dos 3.2 for all it matters.
Simularly with my phone the crappy nokia with crappy outdated talks has been all I have needed since I have got it.
While i am sertainly back in the  dark ages I have no reason to move foreward.
And to do so relitively still costa a lot to do so.

Until nvda at any rate.
Until everything just works disabled in general can never be on the front line at least not as often as we like.
The same is with games.
We will never have the resources to make anything good bar keyboard games we don't have the man power to make that much.
We as blind can't create really good games because we have never seen really.
Don't get me wrong we can make good blind games but they will never match what is round.
The only way we can move is if enough sighted come foreward.
Sadly for all concerned that needs to be accepted on a physical and comercial level, and that means the big game corperations need to stop saying we feel sorry for the poor blind but the market is to small and we don't care and we are not bothered so go to heell blind person.
Or that is what I feel sometimes.
I don't think we can be ahead on that sence the same as normals.
I think the way I look at it is that the disabled have their own class.
You upgrade to your needs its never going to be the top heck you may be behind by decades but it will be what ever the last working system is. And where you started since I have used the keyboard for the last 30 years thats windows xp 7 and whatever has a non touchscreen environment.
My gaming device of choice is the keyboard maybe some mouse support.
My office of choicde is office xp or 97 my email client is eudora and internet explorerr and winamp are what I use for other stuff. Its been ages since I have really needed or had the cash to upgrade anything though I have upgraded only when I have needed so. So while I agree with you in principal tim we are not all equal, accessability is not all equal. In fact if it were this conversation would never take place, it wouldn't need to.
As for us bitching we have a lot to bitch about in a sence and a lot not.
Most of it is beyond our control sadly but if it were I am sure we would make more noise than we are. And while the user base of whatever community or communities may be aware a lot of people outside the percentage that play games in fact use computers for more than work at least think I know several that think the blind can't play games bar card or the childrens games their organisation says like as a bat stuff. I was going to start a gaming to student project in schools with laptops but it fell through. And sadly outside the general base there is no interest, a lot of organisations want education rather than shoot this and that a lot of our games are stratogy based to but still.
Getting things across will be a challenge.

At 01:25 a.m. 9/08/2014, you wrote:
Going for support for game controllers is nice and would be new turf for a few game makers, and it just might add to the replay value. I would put the support in no matter how much they gripe. After all the programmer is writing the game. When you let others tell you how to right your game than its not your game anymore and you have lost the right of control. So what the blind bitch, they have to leave xp behind bitching but yet they still do it. When they find the new op is not much more they quit. that is just life its always changing and you go with it or get left behind. Just like I am finding a lot of old 32 bit programs don't work with the new ops and you have to cripple your op to get them to work. The programmers of those programs state its to hard to learn new. its just like running. You had to learn to walk to run. So no matter how much you bitch about moving forward. Your the one that is left behind with useless software, and hardware.


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