hello Tom.

While this does make infinite amounts of sense, ---- my only concern is you yourself.


You mentioned wanting to get Mota out of your hair and work on other projects, ---- which is quite understandable given the multiple shinanigans you've had with the game.

While I certainly understand the logic of having the genesis engine in general in C++ for future work, ---- that does also mean more work and delay on Mota.

if your happy with this, ---- that's fine, ---- but I don't think anyone would blame you if you wanted to get Mota itself finished quicker, then move on to the C++ coding for the genesis engine, Stfc raceway, and designer of any future projects, ---- afterall, a few extra minutes installing for the user is rather different from months more coding for the developer.

Of course, it's entirely your decision, ---- I'm just conscious how much of your sweat and blood has already gone into the project thus far, ---- and I think it would be a terrible shame if you just burnt out mid way through due to complications and the game never got released.

Ultimately though, it's your game of course, ---- just know that not everyone who plays it is a rabid slave driver who expects you to code all day and night without rest!

Beware the grue!

Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:39 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Important MOTA Announcement


Hi everyone,
Over the passed few months many of you have reported to me a problem with Mysteries of the Ancients where it crashes suddenly and often times without warning. Some times an error will come up stating that a certain *.wav file could not be found, DirectX passes an illegal argument exception, and so on all of which seam to be related to Managed DirectX. I've confirmed this problem is related to Managed DirectX itself, not my games, from various sources so it is quite apparent that the Managed DirectX API for .NET programs needs to be taken out of the game and be replaced with something else much more stable and reliable. I agree that this should be done before Mysteries of the Ancients 1.0 is released. Obviously this will take some time, but there are various options and alternatives open to me at this point. There is a somewhat short term solution I could use where I simply upgrade the existing Genesis Engine written in C# .NET with alternative sound and input APIs. Just off the top of my head there is FMOD,Earclang, the XNA Framework, and SlimDX just to name a few options here. While upgrading the engine to use one or more of these APIs wouldn't take too long I do wonder if that is the better solution for the project long term. A better long term solution is to simply move away from C# .NET altogether and begin converting the code over to C++ now. Two of my projects STFC and USA Raceway are already in the process of being written in C++, and it would be in my long term interests to go ahead and switch the Genesis Engine and Mysteries of the Ancients to c++ now rather than wait to do it later on. For one thing I've been in the process of converting the Genesis Engine over to C++ anyway as well as some on going projects like the new STFC and USA Raceway. Rather than go through the trouble of removing Managed DirectX from the .NET based engine, upgrading it for this one game, it makes more practical sense to save myself the time and work by completing the C++ version of the Genesis Engine. Once that task is completed I could conceivably produce a better more stable version of Mysteries of the Ancients by using the newer and hopefully better C++ based game engine. Another reason why I think Mysteries of the Ancients should be converted to C++ has to do with long term technical support on my end of things. Ever since I began releasing games based on Microsoft's .NET technology my number one technical support issue has been related to downloading, installing, and upgrading the various .NET components you need such as the .NET Framework and Managed DirectX. Were i to switch to C++ I could save both you and I a lot of work downloading, installing, and upgrading libraries as I would primarily use standard Windows libraries that would be found on any XP, Vista, or Windows 7 system. You should be able to just install and go without wondering if you have the absolutely latest DirectX or .NET Framework on your system. I think this is a much better user friendly setup and hopefully would require a lot less tech support from me. Those are just some of the advantages of switching to C++ now. Others would include better system performance, better security, a wider availability of game related APIs, etc. Basically, C++ can't be beat when it comes to game programming, and now is clearly the time to strongly consider using it for this project as well as my on going and pending projects. The one question I know many of you are asking is, "how long will all of this take?" That is a difficult question to answer. Anything I would say here would be simply a guess at best. Do to the fact C# .NET is a C-Style language it obviously has a lot in common with C++, and much of the code could be converted pretty easily from C# to C++. That would obviously save time. Still there would be quite a lot of manual coding by hand to fully convert the engine from one language to the other. How long that would actually take is anyone's guess. However, if I had to make an educated guess say three or four months for the conversion process if everything goes well. Anyway, the point I want to make is that there are lots of ways of resolving our Managed DirectX issue. In the short term I certainly could upgrade the .NET based Genesis Engine, finish Mysteries of the Ancients, and have 1.0 out fairly quickly. However, I believe the long term solution, converting the game to C++, is the better solution. The advantages of converting the game to C++ far out way those of simply upgrading the current .NET engine and releasing it. While it takes longer it is ultimately what i feel I should do. So for those of you who are in a rush to get this game please be patient and understand I'm only doing this for your best interests. I'd much rather take a few extra months developing this game if it is going to be easier to install, is more stable, and a better product rather than doing the quick and easy thing. As they say good things come to those who wait.

Sincerely,
Thomas Ward
President of USA Games Interactive
http://www.usagamesinteractive.com


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