Hi, The idea the government has about blindness still amuses me. I have a friend who is considered blind, and he has something like 2050 vision with glasses. Let us look up "blind" in the dictionary, shall we? Best Regards, Hayden
-----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of key stone Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 3:42 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Future of Audio Games Very true, but on our side I have read a figure that more and more people are becoming labeled as "Visually impaired," in one form or another like 1 in every 3; as the baby boomers age various types of blindness is becoming more relevant to the wider population. With that being said, maybe if the blind thing begins to effect more people who have better resources and influence, larger companies will begin to make more accessible software and entertainment platforms such as televisions with talking menus and dvr's; basically they would have to provide accessible products because a bigger market who purchase these products will need it; if you have noticed allot of 2010 cars have TTS capabilities for phone calling, GPS, radio and emergencies services; additionally, the military fly un - manned drone aircraft now with a joy stick, navigation for flying is mostly computerized meaning we as blind people can control it via TTS; Lastly, the new Lexus can park itself.. I'm Done... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> To: "Lori Duncan" <lori_dunca...@hotmail.com>; "Gamers Discussion list" <email@example.com> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Future of Audio Games > Hi Lori, > Unfortunately, the world doesn't quite work that way. I know from > first hand experience that companies like Nintendo furiously protect > their copyrights and it is illegal to use copyrighted games and > characters like Mario in a game. The ADA has nothing to do with it > here. > In fact, I often hear blind gamers constantly spout off going after > mainstream game companies using the ADA and other similar laws, but > they fail to understand one major thing. They don't have the rights > they think they have when it comes to software like games. > For example, in 2001 the U.S. updated the ADA with section 508 that > made it manditory that software that was to be used by the government > or a blind employee in the work place had to be made accessible. This > means any operating system such as Windows, Linux, Mac, etc had to be > fully accessible. This also includes any office applications like > databases, spreadsheet applications, word processors, and so on has > to be accessible to the blind. For the most part a large majority of > those types of applications have been updated and have been made > accessible since the amendment was passed. However, what section 508 > does not say is that every single software application out there has > to be accessible. Only those that apply to your job. > As it happens games are strictly entertainment. They have no place in > the work place so the ADA has nothing to say about them. They simply > are not covered, and none of us have the millions to take Sony, > Nintendo, Microsoft, Edos, E.A. Games, etc to ccourt and demand they > make their titles accessible. They'll laugh us out of court, and the > ADA doesn't legally apply here. You might eventually win a > descrimination suit, but are you willing to put up the thousands or > perhaps millions to take it to court and fight it? > > > > On 5/23/10, Lori Duncan <lori_dunca...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Actually what gets me so angery is I've tried joining in with sighted >> games >> on my sister's computer. It's a Nintendo, one of the ones with games >> where >> you've to move around. I can only really do the bolling game because >> when >> you get s strick it will say "Great shot!" or something like that, same >> for >> if you get a half. Also there's sounds of skittles falling and my family >> tell me how many I get down. I've won games on it and it's great playing >> with my sister and friends, but to be honest I wish it was accessible for >> the blind with talking menus and everything. There's another game called >> "Marrio Car" It's really fast, I think the idea is to drive a car around >> avoiding other cars picking up boxs, avoiding electricity and get bonus >> objects. I don't think it'd be breaking any laws to make it accessible >> for >> the blind, or any other visual game for that matter. If someone stops >> you >> just get them with the disability discrimination act. We have as much >> right >> to have fun as any sighted person. Just my own thoughts, and I'm not a >> political person, just believe in the blind ruling the world. <Smile> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. 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