Hi,

The problem with this though is that jaws becomes much much more expencive 
if people continue to use it frequently. And I think jaws is much enouhg 
already.

Kevin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hayden Presley" <hdpres...@hotmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:06:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

> Hi Kevin,
> I don't know about the research it thing...it is, depending on what you're
> looking for, much more concise then having to navigate through huge pages
> full of links you will never use or need.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of weis...@googlemail.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:32 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific
> 
> HI,
> 
> I must absolutely agree with the message below! That is like totally 
> criminal. I never liked jaws anyways. It started to become worse and 
> worse from the first version it was built. It seems like they don't give 
> a damn about fixing issues. They instead add more useless, even more 
> broken features. With useless I especially point at re-search it... I 
> mean everyone can go to google and search for something. It is easy 
> enough. And you will probably have more from it anyways. Also, they don't 
> delete useless files. If, for example, some jawsAPI has been changed, the 
> old DLL is still found somewhere hiding deep in the version. Because of 
> this, the setup files keep growing, and growing, and becoming bigger and 
> bigger. Also, look at sapi 5 support. It is broken. Actually, it worked 
> just fine in version 5.0. Since then, it's broken! It crashes on almost 
> any voice! And then instead of fixing it, they delete it totally? I mean 
> come on!
> 
> And so I converted over to NVDA, and didn't even bother to install jaws 
on 
> my laptop. I also removed it from my desktop, since it messed up the 
> graphics card so badly, I hardly could do something. And no, it's not! a 
> bad card. 
> Kevin.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:25:52 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific
> 
> > Hi Charles,
> > You are absolutely right from a business point of view. However, there
> > are plenty of alternatives than supporting the screen readers
> > directly. For example, Time of Conflict and Lone Wolf allow you to
> > select SAPI, Jaws, or Window-Eyes. As far as I am concerned using SAPI
> > 5 support is enough and doesn't show favoritism to any screen reader
> > or screen reader manufacturer.  It is more ideal anyway as you aren't
> > trying to support every screen reader out there directly.
> > I've actually been asked a few times if I would add Jaws support to my
> > games. While I understand the nature of the requests I have made a
> > polacy not to support any screen readers directly. First of all, it
> > requires more work supporting each and every screen readers individual
> > API directly. Second of all, I feel supporting Freedom Scientific's
> > products goes against my principles. For one thing they have an unfair
> > advantage over their competition because they are largely supported
> > through businesses, government agencies, organizations, and so on that
> > aren't willing to support GW Micro, Dolphin, etc as well. Then,
> > Freedom Scientific shows the world what they are really like by
> > dragging GW Micro, FBC, and anyone else they see as a threat into
> > court. Over the past year or so it has been one lawsuit after another.
> > I happen to know they have a tendancy to treat their customers with
> > little regard or respect as well. For example, a friend of mine
> > ordered a dongle from F.S. and when he got it he found out it was
> > deffective. Instead of exchanging it or something reasonable they told
> > him he had to order a new one at full price. That's down right
> > criminal in my book. Why continue supporting a business, any business,
> > if they are going to treat their customers like that?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 8/7/10, Charles Rivard <woofer...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > If any game developer is going to provide screen reader support for 
> their
> > > games, regardless of how they feel about the screen reader developing
> > > company's policies are, I feel that you have to support what your 
> customers
> > > are using.  Otherwise, you're cutting your own customer base.
> > >
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