Hello, Yes, I understand. Though still I am wondering why they had to make it this way. My believings are they couldn't get scripting to work without it. But why does window-eyes? Also I find it to be a little odd, having my keyboard keys first being processed through the screen reader I am using. I don't know why but it just feels a little odd.
Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:05 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific > > Hi Kevin, > Well, I don't know for certain what the developers did, but I have > enough background knowledge of the problem to make an educated guess > as to why Jaws locks up whenever you play a game that uses DirectX. I > remember several years ago when I was writing Jaws scripts all of the > keyboard commands, even those not directly associated with Jaws, > seamed to be wrapped by Jaws. In other words I think what they did is > write some sort of keyboard and mouse intercept that captures any > input events and routes them through Jaws before sending them on to > Windows or the currently active application. In this way Jaws would > have exclusive control over the keyboard not allowing anything through > until it is processed by the screen reader. Now, you start up your > favorite game and it happens to use DirectInput. The way DirectInput > works is it tries to gain direct access to the keyboard, mouse, and > any joysticks on the system. The result is pretty predictable. Jaws > wants complete control of the keyboard and DirectX wants control of > the keyboard. This will end up in a deadlock because neither one is > able to gain direct control of the keyboard. A screen reader like NVDA > doesn't have this problem because it simply monitors standard Windows > event messages and acts upon them accordingly while not trying to have > exclusive control of the keyboard, mouse, or anything else. Make > sense? > > Cheers! > > > On 8/7/10, weis...@googlemail.com <weis...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > OH, and something else to mention. Why on earth does jaws lock the arrow > > keys! I mean no! And I do say no, other screen reader does that, as far > > as I know. They always are passed through to the application. Maybe not > > how they are supposed to be, but they are anyway, so they still work. > > Maybe not as fast, but they work. Jaws locks them completely. And, if one > > script is broken, almost nothing works. Includinng the keyboard, so you > > cannot even close it. Your only option is someone sighted, or the reset / > > power button on your computer. > > But before I even continue rambling on about jaws, I better stop here. > > Otherwise I just tell stuff that people already know. Heh > > > > > > Kevin > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
