in the US, It hink JAWS is $1095 or so, but I don't know the amount in canadian dollars ----- Original Message ----- From: <weis...@googlemail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific


Hi,

The problem with this though is that jaws becomes much much more expencive
if people continue to use it frequently. And I think jaws is much enouhg
already.

Kevin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hayden Presley" <hdpres...@hotmail.com>
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 15:06:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

Hi Kevin,
I don't know about the research it thing...it is, depending on what you're
looking for, much more concise then having to navigate through huge pages
full of links you will never use or need.

Best Regards,
Hayden


-----Original Message-----
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

HI,

I must absolutely agree with the message below! That is like totally
criminal. I never liked jaws anyways. It started to become worse and
worse from the first version it was built. It seems like they don't give
a damn about fixing issues. They instead add more useless, even more
broken features. With useless I especially point at re-search it... I
mean everyone can go to google and search for something. It is easy
enough. And you will probably have more from it anyways. Also, they don't
delete useless files. If, for example, some jawsAPI has been changed, the
old DLL is still found somewhere hiding deep in the version. Because of
this, the setup files keep growing, and growing, and becoming bigger and
bigger. Also, look at sapi 5 support. It is broken. Actually, it worked
just fine in version 5.0. Since then, it's broken! It crashes on almost
any voice! And then instead of fixing it, they delete it totally? I mean
come on!

And so I converted over to NVDA, and didn't even bother to install jaws
on
my laptop. I also removed it from my desktop, since it messed up the
graphics card so badly, I hardly could do something. And no, it's not! a
bad card.
Kevin.
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 10:25:52 -0400
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific

> Hi Charles,
> You are absolutely right from a business point of view. However, there
> are plenty of alternatives than supporting the screen readers
> directly. For example, Time of Conflict and Lone Wolf allow you to
> select SAPI, Jaws, or Window-Eyes. As far as I am concerned using SAPI
> 5 support is enough and doesn't show favoritism to any screen reader
> or screen reader manufacturer.  It is more ideal anyway as you aren't
> trying to support every screen reader out there directly.
> I've actually been asked a few times if I would add Jaws support to my
> games. While I understand the nature of the requests I have made a
> polacy not to support any screen readers directly. First of all, it
> requires more work supporting each and every screen readers individual
> API directly. Second of all, I feel supporting Freedom Scientific's
> products goes against my principles. For one thing they have an unfair
> advantage over their competition because they are largely supported
> through businesses, government agencies, organizations, and so on that
> aren't willing to support GW Micro, Dolphin, etc as well. Then,
> Freedom Scientific shows the world what they are really like by
> dragging GW Micro, FBC, and anyone else they see as a threat into
> court. Over the past year or so it has been one lawsuit after another.
> I happen to know they have a tendancy to treat their customers with
> little regard or respect as well. For example, a friend of mine
> ordered a dongle from F.S. and when he got it he found out it was
> deffective. Instead of exchanging it or something reasonable they told
> him he had to order a new one at full price. That's down right
> criminal in my book. Why continue supporting a business, any business,
> if they are going to treat their customers like that?
>
>
>
> On 8/7/10, Charles Rivard <woofer...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > If any game developer is going to provide screen reader support for
their
> > games, regardless of how they feel about the screen reader developing
> > company's policies are, I feel that you have to support what your
customers
> > are using.  Otherwise, you're cutting your own customer base.
> >
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