Hi Philip,
That's the thing, games don't have manual's anymore. When I was
developing the tone game in the manual of BGT, I created the
example but add something like a tutorial when the start game
function is called. Want to wrap my head around sound positioning,
so may do the second example and have a tutorial in that one and
post it. But most games at the beginning have a tutorial level or
levels which guide you through the operations of it, and then the
real game begins.
Most games with a story make it sound as though the tutorial isn't
there by implementing it well into the story.
Orin
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On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote:
> Hi Yohandy,
>
> I pretty much feel the same way as a lot of other people on this
list. If the game is not accessible enough to allow me to play
without sighted assistance, or requires me to learn everything by
heart such as all menu options etc before I can even begin, I
quite frankly have no interest in it. I did my fare share of
controller punching myself when I was younger just because I liked
the sounds and wanted to experience a fraction of what my friends
were talking about all the time. I didn't have much success, but
that does not mean I have no interest. Tell me a game that I can
read the manual fore, install, run, and play without requiring any
help from someone sighted, and also that will not run me 300
dollars for a console and 40/50 for the game, and I will be more
than happy to play. But I am not willing to buy a console just
because I might, with trial and error, be able to win a few times
after countless attempts and assistance. That is a sacrifice that
I feel is not only huge, but fruitless.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Philip Bennefall
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yohandy" <[email protected]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:12 PM
> Subject: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity.
>
>
> Hey guys,
> Ok I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I find myself getting extremely
> frustrated with the blind gaming community. Why you ask? ok
here goes. > I'm
> sure you guys have noticed I've been putting up some rock band
samples > up.
> you've also noticed Clement has been putting up some street fighter IV
> samples and various other samples. So why is it that when we ask for
> feedback or comments on these samples we work hard to create,
people > simply
> either ignore us completely, or the same 3 or 4 people are the ones to
> always respond? well you know what I think the reason for that
is? > simply
> that the games we post about are mainstream games, not audio
games. > I've
> noticed that when a new audio game comes out, even if it's the most
> simplistic game in existence, everyone's all jumping to download it
> immediately and there are threads that span hundreds of messages on the
> subject. But when we post something having to do with console
games, > the
> thread dies in a matter of hours. I'm sure Clement has been
feeling > this
> frustration as well. it's been leaking through in his emails to
the > list
> even if he hasn't mentioned it outright. So my question is
this: what > must
> we do to get you guys interested in something other than
topspeed 3, or > any
> other audio game for that matter? don't you guys have that spark of
> curiosity to find out everything there is to find about video
games? > why is
> everyone ignoring these games outright? This community has hundreds of
> members, and only a very limited amount of people even talk about
mainstream
> games. it's all audio games, audio games, and more audio games.
there's > so
> much more out there for you to find guys. how can you call
yourself a > gamer
> when you aren't even willing to download the files Clement and
I put up > to
> at least listen to what these games have to offer? Whenever I
put up a > rock
> band sample, I get like 4 or 5 downloads at most. however I
rarely get > any
> feedback. I think you guys are just shoving these files in your
hard > drives
> and don't even take a listen. if you do, then you have the
curiosity of > a
> robot. I don't know about Clement, but I'm not planning on
putting > anything
> else up. What's the point? no one seems to care what we have to
say, or have
> any curiosity about console gaming. you guys just keep playing
your > audio
> games and keep your closed-minded mentality about game accessibility in
> general. If you think I'm taking things too far, consider
this: > remember
> when Clement and I had that little Street Fighter seminar? I
finally thought
> that people finally had some interest in what we had to say and
in the > game
> and such. we got some really good questions, and over all had a
really > good
> time. but once that seminar ended, what do you think happened?
That's right.
> absolutely nothing. people basically were like oh ok, that game
had > awesome
> sounds and music and such. ok back to playing some tank
commander. at least,
> that's how I feel personally. it was fun as a spur of the
moment thing. > Now
> let me ask you this. how many of you, after listening to that
seminar > went
> over to gamestop and bought a copy of Street Fighter? or even go to a
> friend's house and try the game out? My guess is 0. ok rant
over. I > know
> this email is a mess lol, but it's just basically me writing
down my > ideas
> as they come to mind. take from it what you will. for those of
us > serious
> about gaming, we need to get together and figure where we
should take > it
> from here. Do we give up, or keep trying? I'm pretty tired of trying > my
> self when everyone's resisting to be honest. Good day everyone.
>
>
>
>
>
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