Yep. But I highly doubt anyone reads them though. Most just pop the game in and play through the tutorial. Most people call those booklet's the "standard instruction booklet". Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112
On Feb 7, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Clement Chou wrote: > Games do have instructional manuals... in the cases. Just OCR them. > > At 04:34 PM 07/02/2011, you wrote: >> Hi Philip, >> >> That's the thing, games don't have manual's anymore. When I was developing >> the tone game in the manual of BGT, I created the example but add something >> like a tutorial when the start game function is called. Want to wrap my head >> around sound positioning, so may do the second example and have a tutorial >> in that one and post it. But most games at the beginning have a tutorial >> level or levels which guide you through the operations of it, and then the >> real game begins. >> >> Most games with a story make it sound as though the tutorial isn't there by >> implementing it well into the story. >> >> >> Orin >> orin8...@gmail.com >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks >> Skype: orin1112 >> >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Philip Bennefall wrote: >> >> > Hi Yohandy, >> > >> > I pretty much feel the same way as a lot of other people on this list. If >> > the game is not accessible enough to allow me to play without sighted >> > assistance, or requires me to learn everything by heart such as all menu >> > options etc before I can even begin, I quite frankly have no interest in >> > it. I did my fare share of controller punching myself when I was younger >> > just because I liked the sounds and wanted to experience a fraction of >> > what my friends were talking about all the time. I didn't have much >> > success, but that does not mean I have no interest. Tell me a game that I >> > can read the manual fore, install, run, and play without requiring any >> > help from someone sighted, and also that will not run me 300 dollars for a >> > console and 40/50 for the game, and I will be more than happy to play. But >> > I am not willing to buy a console just because I might, with trial and >> > error, be able to win a few times after countless attempts and assistance. >> > That is a sacrifice that I feel is not only huge, but fruitless. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > Philip Bennefall >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yohandy" <yohand...@gmail.com> >> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:12 PM >> > Subject: [Audyssey] my frustration with the blind gaming comunity. >> > >> > >> > Hey guys, >> > Ok I'm gonna go ahead and say it. I find myself getting extremely >> > frustrated with the blind gaming community. Why you ask? ok here goes. I'm >> > sure you guys have noticed I've been putting up some rock band samples up. >> > you've also noticed Clement has been putting up some street fighter IV >> > samples and various other samples. So why is it that when we ask for >> > feedback or comments on these samples we work hard to create, people simply >> > either ignore us completely, or the same 3 or 4 people are the ones to >> > always respond? well you know what I think the reason for that is? simply >> > that the games we post about are mainstream games, not audio games. I've >> > noticed that when a new audio game comes out, even if it's the most >> > simplistic game in existence, everyone's all jumping to download it >> > immediately and there are threads that span hundreds of messages on the >> > subject. But when we post something having to do with console games, the >> > thread dies in a matter of hours. I'm sure Clement has been feeling this >> > frustration as well. it's been leaking through in his emails to the list >> > even if he hasn't mentioned it outright. So my question is this: what must >> > we do to get you guys interested in something other than topspeed 3, or any >> > other audio game for that matter? don't you guys have that spark of >> > curiosity to find out everything there is to find about video games? why is >> > everyone ignoring these games outright? This community has hundreds of >> > members, and only a very limited amount of people even talk about >> > mainstream >> > games. it's all audio games, audio games, and more audio games. there's so >> > much more out there for you to find guys. how can you call yourself a gamer >> > when you aren't even willing to download the files Clement and I put up to >> > at least listen to what these games have to offer? Whenever I put up a rock >> > band sample, I get like 4 or 5 downloads at most. however I rarely get any >> > feedback. I think you guys are just shoving these files in your hard drives >> > and don't even take a listen. if you do, then you have the curiosity of a >> > robot. I don't know about Clement, but I'm not planning on putting anything >> > else up. What's the point? no one seems to care what we have to say, or >> > have >> > any curiosity about console gaming. you guys just keep playing your audio >> > games and keep your closed-minded mentality about game accessibility in >> > general. If you think I'm taking things too far, consider this: remember >> > when Clement and I had that little Street Fighter seminar? I finally >> > thought >> > that people finally had some interest in what we had to say and in the game >> > and such. we got some really good questions, and over all had a really good >> > time. but once that seminar ended, what do you think happened? That's >> > right. >> > absolutely nothing. people basically were like oh ok, that game had awesome >> > sounds and music and such. ok back to playing some tank commander. at >> > least, >> > that's how I feel personally. it was fun as a spur of the moment thing. Now >> > let me ask you this. how many of you, after listening to that seminar went >> > over to gamestop and bought a copy of Street Fighter? or even go to a >> > friend's house and try the game out? My guess is 0. ok rant over. I know >> > this email is a mess lol, but it's just basically me writing down my ideas >> > as they come to mind. take from it what you will. for those of us serious >> > about gaming, we need to get together and figure where we should take it >> > from here. Do we give up, or keep trying? I'm pretty tired of trying my >> > self when everyone's resisting to be honest. 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