Hi Dark, Well, in my personal opinion sometimes god-moding is unreal so that is one reason I braught it up. The point I was getting at it is whatever it is you are doing as a developer weather it is designing a fantacy weapon, character, or enemy you need to make it plausible/believable. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I for one just don't like games that don't act remotely realistically. It is to my mind cheating.
That said, I also recognize a difference between arcade games and simulations. Megaman is undoubtedly a classic arcade game so unlimited ammo etc is perfectly fine in that context since the purpose in those games is not only to complete the game but to score as high as possible which requires a bit of unrealism. However, a lot of non-arcade games like Tomb Raider is more of a simulation. There is no scoring, and in that case the authors/developers try to make things as realistic as possible. This to me is a better over all experience because you don't have unlimited ammo, invincible power ups, etc and only get by through careful planning and strategy. Not to say Megaman doesn't have this too, but it is just different and more realistic. Cheers! On 3/19/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: > hi Tom. > > I'm afraid you seem to be putting together too issues here, god mode and > unrealism. > > take a game series like mega man, which has imho some of the best balanced > and best designed weapons of an imaginary game series. > > In the Mega man x games, hidden in each stage was a heart tank which > extended x's life bar, and allowed him to carry more life, to the point that > if you got all 8, you'd have twice as much energy. > > You could also find subtanks, which you could keep and which could hold more > energy so that when you activated them they restored you to full > health, ---- though you could only have four. > > then, you got the 8 boss weapons. then, you get x's armour power ups which > let you do things like temporarily hover in mid air, charge up your weapons > to produce more powerful shots, or help you find items with a radar system. > > Yet, inspite of all these items, even if you have all of them, the game is > stil! hard, due to the speed, clever placement, and difficulty of enemy > attacks. > > This is a game which gives you man unique itmes which in another series > would be like a godmode, yet which aren't due to the general difficulty of > the game. > > for instance, you might have double health with all heart tanks, and four > bonus health restores waiting with the subt tanks, but one hit of sigma's > beam sabre and you can kiss good bye to a third of your health. > > And bare in mind you don't just have to fight sigma alone, first he sticks > his robotic wolf velgwader on you, then you fight him, then his head > attaches to a large wolf battle body which you then have to destroy as well. > > so in this case, the instantly acting restoring energy energy tanks are > actually all part of the stratogy, ---- do you use one when fighting sigma's > wolf? do you save them for later? If they functioned more realistically, > releasing health over time, they simply would be of no use in that fight. > > likewise, sinse Mega man x has no close range weapons, all weapons fire out > of his arm cannon. Some may not fire too far, some indeed, ---- like the > silk shot in mmx2 may be very close range, but all have a minimum range > sinse they all come out of his gun. > > One gun, firing all these weapons, ---- indeed the idea of the hole weapon > copy system in the first place, is pretty ludicrous when considdered in the > light of realistic weaponry. > > but in the context of the mega man series, put against the physics and > mechanics of each boss and the stage design, it works perfectly well and > fits in with the general style of the game. > > to take another example. the other day I was playing marrio 2 and fighting > the boss birdo (and before any confusion results, I mean the traditional > marrio 2 where you can sellect from marrio, tode princess or luiji and kill > monsters by chucking stuff at them, not the direct sequal to marrio bross > originally only released in japan). > > Anyway, for those who don't know, birdo is a large pink creature who > repeatedly spits eggs at you which fly along a vertical plane and go off > screen. > > to defeat her you need to jump on an egg, pick it up in midair and chuck it > back at her. > > later on in the game, this becomes harder sinse Birdo starts chucking > fireballs, or fighting you over pits, or firing eggs extremely fast. > > Realistic? ---- hell no! I can't think of one real world creature who has an > infinite supply of it's own eggs to chuck at you, let alone firebreath. > > However, in the context of marrio 2, with it's rockit ships that you can > pull out of the ground, it's walking bombs and mad explosive mice, ---- it's > a great addition. > > I'd personally say rather than realism, games need to have a self-consistant > world and structure independent to that game, and balanced within that > games' world according to difficulty and consistant item rules. > > for instance in marrio 2, some bombs walk around, while others you can pick > up, but all will explode the same way and will damage either you or an enemy > if your close. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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