Pretty good analysis there. grins. I never thought of the Padme angle, but you're right... it was pretty obvious that Vader wasn't at his best when fighting Luke. And the fact that he tore himself out of the dark side to save his son isn't very easy to miss. lol. There was a touch in the radio drama of Return of the Jedi that I liked, not sure if you've listened to it. At the end of the whole thing when Palpatine is blasting Luke with lightning, Vader leaps up and cries, "My Son!" Palpatine then commands Vader to put him down, to which Vader replies, "I will. Down the core shaft... down to your death!" Palpatine than says, "Vader! I am your master!" And the last thing Vader says before throwing him down the shaft is, "Darth Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalkers!" I would've liked to see that in the movie... and as to Obi-Wan being old, if later episodes count Jedi as old as himself can fight just as well as when they are at their peak. Luke fought through the entirity of the last battle against the Vong in New Jedi Order at probably 40 something... and almost kills Jason in Legacy of the Force, a man who is probably 20 years younger than him... the same age gap, I think, as between Obi-wan and Anakin Skywalker / Vader.

At 04:55 PM 07/05/2011, you wrote:

Maybe. Its more likely that Obi-Wan was just to old to fight as
effectively as he did in Revenge of the Sith. Remember 19 years had
passed between Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars A New Hope. Obi-Wan
looked to be in his 60's or 70's by the time he met Vader again, and
he was probably physically weaker and slower than Vader, or he chose
to let himself get killed for reason x. Plus by the time A New Hope
had come along Anakin had fully become Darth Vader and probably had
learned a lot more about the dark side of the force than he did 19
years previously.

If you ask me the reason Luke Skywalker managed to fight and
eventually defeat Vader had nothing to do with skills or powers, but
Vader's emotional weakness. Say what you will about Darth Vader he
had really and truly loved Padme. That made him unable to kill his
only son, and his daughter as well. That emotional bond, although
distant, was enough to make him hold back and not fight as effectively
as he perhaps could have.

As it turns out in Return of the Jedi when Palpatine is trying to kill
Luke it was Darth Vader who grabs Palpatine by the throat and tosses
him into the reactor core. Apparently Vader's love for his son was
greater than the dark side and any loyalty he had to Palpatine.

It is apparent as early as Empire Strikes Back that Anakin, Darth
Vader, secretly hated Palpatine. In Revenge of the Sith, of course, we
find out why. Palpatine told Anakin if he turned to the dark side that
he'd insure Padme didn't die, but of course she does die and Anakin
goes into emotional melt down. Finding out that he had two children
who were alive and well went a long way to bring Anakin back from the
dark side and why he turned on Palpatine and threw him head long into
the Deathstar's reactor core.


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