we have been waiting for six years a few weeks no different now lol the game will be out eventually but why not just wait for version 1 as i think eventually people will lose interest most of us buying it have played levels 1 and 2 for the last ten or so betas
On Aug 1, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Darren Duff wrote: > I say do what ya gotta do man. We can wait for it.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On > Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 1:32 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] MOTA Development setbacks > > Hi everyone, > > I know a number of you have asked about beta 21. Many of you have noticed > that the Mysteries of the Ancients home page says beta 21 on the website, > but there is no download available. Well, here is the reason why. > > Anyone who has been programming for any length of time knows that 25% of the > time is actually spent on writing/designing the software and the other 75% > is spent on debugging or trying to fix it. I must confess that I am no > exception to the rule. In particular Mysteries of the Ancients is no > exception either, and I've got a hard lesson in if it isn't broke don't try > to fix it. Reason being after a month of trying to fix Mysteries of the > Ancients beta 20 I've come to realize what I have on my hands is a big > problem. Oh, it can be fixed but how I plan to resolve the problem is likely > to set us back somewhat in the process. > > Basically, what happened is when I started work on beta 19 I modified > Mysteries of the Ancients so it would compile and run on the cross-platform > engine. Along the way I fixed a number of bugs present in beta 18, but of > course people weren't too happy about FMOD Ex for audio. So I thought, "no > big deal. I'll just change everything back, recompile, and it will work just > fine." Wrong! > > Sometime after I edited the MOTA beta 19 source code, recompiled it with the > Windows G3D engine the game has never worked quite right ever since. The > game crashes when you alt+tab away from the window, torches burn out after > 25 seconds or so, levers reset before they are suppose to, Angela sometimes > instantly dies after getting attacked by a Harpy, and all sorts of unusual > bugs like that. I've fixed or addressed some of the bugs, but not all of > them. After a month of trying to correct them one by one I've given up > trying on the current version. I've concluded while the bugs might be > fixable there might be a simpler but slightly less desirable alternative to > the problem which I will explain below. > > As many of you know I use a Linux computer for much of my day to day work. > One of the programming tools I have installed is called subversion. What > subversion does for a developer like myself is I can checkin or backup > changes to an ongoing project and it will catalog and store every single > version of the source code being worked on. So if I want to return to an > older release it is easy as logging into subversion and telling it I want to > checkout the 0.18 source code and it will download the 0.18 source code to > my project directory. This makes it a simple matter for a developer to roll > back to a prior release if necessary. In this case I think it is more than > necessary. > > So what I plan to do is delete the beta 20/21 source code and checkout 0.18, > beta 18, from subversion since I know that version wasn't nearly as buggy as > beta 20. Once I checkout the beta 18 source code from subversion I can > attempt to patch it with some of the changes, but as I've forgotten what > exactly I fixed in beta 19 and beta 20 some old bugs may return in beta 21. > Plus some features such as speech interrupt were added later and won't be > available to you until I go back in and add that support to Mysteries of the > Ancients. Basically, as I said earlier this will set us back on our > development schedule, but I think this is a necessary measure as it is the > only way I can think of to correct some of these bugs that simply were not > present in beta 18 and earlier. So here is the plan. > > I'm going to checkout beta 18 this afternoon, work on a patch to bring beta > 18 more or less up to current, and release that as beta 21. Once we test > that, find any bugs that need fixed, features that need to be put back in, > etc I'll release an update, beta 22, to resolve any left over issues in > trying to upgrade beta 18 to current. It could take a couple of weeks to > really get everything back up to speed so to speak, but I think the problem > is fixable. It will just take a little time and patients on everyone's part. > > Cheers! > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > _____________ NOD32 EMON 6341 (20110801) information _____________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system http://www.eset.com > > > > > _____________ NOD32 EMON 6341 (20110801) information _____________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system > http://www.eset.com > > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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