Hi Tom.

Well I'm hoping that the supernova api won't be that! secret, sinse I have pointed out to dolphin that it is necessary to get this support going in Supernova as well.

Hopefully they'll release it soon, but we'll see.

Beware the gRue!

dArk.
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Hi Dark,

Well, when you find out something about Super Nova's API let me know.
This issue of not documenting the API is a common problem with screen
readers in general. Its driving me slightly nuts.

For instance, if a developer wants to know how to access NVDA via its
Controller Client its no biggy. There is a decent amount of free API
documentation not to mention source code too look at. Jaws on the
other hand is a totally different story. A developer wants to know how
to access and use the JFW API the developer has to contact them
directly, talk to their technical support, and then they'll e-mail the
developer documentation as well as the headers and libs for the API.
Why they don't put it up on the website I'll never know. The guys over
at Freedom Scientific created the API so applications would support
their screen reader, but when a developer asks about it they treat it
like top secret information or something. Like go figure. They want
third-party developers to support Jaws or not?

Cheers!


On 10/31/11, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Hi Tom.

I'm sorry the halloween game didn't work out, but hopefully we'll have
something good to play from usa games before the end of the year.

Just as to the situation with the Supernova Api used for access (Hal has
been renamed supernova screen reader for some reason).

dolphin actually have it (it's been used in Quitter and supported libraries which is why blockparty outputs to Supernova), however they haven't made a general public release. Why? ---- because they haven't had time to document
the api!

I did explain to them that this is absolutely ridiculous! I've had people
say quite legitimately that they don't choose to use supernova becuase of
the lack of support from certain programs, and it is true that when a game or other application is reliant on sending text directly to a screen reader
rather than printing it on the screen, it's not really useable with
Supernova currently.

Dolphin stated they were! going to fix this when they'd finished supernova 12.5, with it's rewrite of internet support, and sinse that's now done, I'm hopeful the Api should be showing up soon, ---- indeed were I not busy guide
dog training currently I'd phone them and see where it currently is.

Hopefully when it is actually fixed supporting Supernova with directly sent
text will be no more difficult than with Window eyes, Jaws or any other
program.

As regards the review curser though, that really is one of the strengths of Supernova. It for instance automatically reviews columns logically which is
why games liek Smugglers are easier, and also has great ways of moving
around the screen, my favourite of which is the find feature which can go to
any text.

This is why I generally myself don't find games that require it such as if
titles or old dos games like piledriver or fallthru difficult to play,
indeed while the direct output method is fine too (I can always use sapi as I usually do), I wasn't unhappy with usa blackjack for this reason myself.

Beware the grue!

dark.


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