Roger: Your statement "high lumens obviates UVB for MOST day geckos" is not correct -- it is correct to say day geckos who are kept under quality light (high lumens and high CRI) and sufficient quantities of dietary D3 and calcium, not need supplemental UV lighting.
Looking at all your husbandry, I think that she is just nutrient deficient from breeding. Calcium deficiency doesn't necessary cause weight loss and reluctance to eat as quickly as lack of nutrition. P. klemmeri are no more supplement sensitive than other geckos, but due to their smaller bodies, keeping klemmeri well fed is more the challenge, especially breeding females. I keep my breeding klemmeri females fed daily. Males have the normal three feedings a week, but to my females I provide extra feedings each day so that they can keep up the nutritional needs of their body and the developing eggs. I keep calcium & D3 in small lids in enclosures. Get her going again by gut loading crickets well and feeding her daily. Make sure that she gets calcium and D3 at each feeding. T-Rexs' Day Gecko Food has big quantities of vitamin A which can slow her ability to take up the calcium. When you use T-Rex, add calcium/D3 to balance out the vitamin A overage. Leann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 1:57 AM Subject: [gecko]Re: sick klemmeri female > Roger. Duh, what was I thinking. Setup is a large > Oceanic tank of unknown gallonage 30X24X12 (lxwxh). > Lighting provided by 4 compact fluorescents of 60 > watts each. Temp range of 75-90 during the day, 73 at > night. Misted twice daily, humidity in the tank > builds up nicely at night. Been with the male 1.5 > years, shes approximately that old. I was running > under the "no uvb required if high lumens provided" > philosophy, but I think thats the culprit. Diet has > been FF, crix, and the Trex day gecko diet, mixed with > baby food, honey, and calcium. FF and crix dusted > with rep-cal and herptivite. She produced two > clutches, probably too close together. > My diagnosis: calcium deficiency due to insufficient > UVB and two clutches. Im going to hazard a guess on > this one, but some people have mentioned how > supplement sensitive klemmeri are. Im going to say > that although the high lumens obviates UVB for MOST > day geckos, if youve got a reproducing female > klemmeri, this may not be sufficient. An aggressive > and "interested" male doesnt help either. Thought I > had cooled them sufficiently....but I was wrong. > She is now getting some Neocalglucon and plenty of > uvb. Ive seen her perk up a bit, but still not eating > if I dont put the nectar right on her snout. If by > tomorrow I dont see her in hunting mode, Ill force a > wax worm or maybe FF larvae on friday. Other > suggestions? Maybe a mush of various bugs instead of > the wax worm and/or FF larvae? Ive got plenty of bugs > to choose from...termites, houseflies, WW, FF of two > species, crix, earthworms, etc... > Any help appreciated, shes thin. > Chad > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:13:44 -0800 (PST) > > From: Chad Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [gecko]Ill klemmeri female > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hi all. Ive got sick klemmeri female. She seems to > > have had a bad shed, and then the male was > > harrassing > > her a bit too. Anyway, she started to lose weight, > > so > > I separated her. She was listless, and wont eat. I > > have managed to dribble a little "nectar" mix on her > > snout a few times, but she doesnt appear to be > > eating > > anything more than that. She has perked up slightly, > > but its been a week now and she isnt putting on > > weight > > as far as I can tell. She has access to fruit > > flies, > > houseflies, pinheads, mini-wax worms, anything that > > she would normally respond to, but doesnt seem > > interested. How can I get her eating again? > > Thanks, > > Chad > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > > search. > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:04:38 -0800 > > From: Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [gecko]Ill klemmeri female > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Organization: Gecko Ranch > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hi Chad, > > > > We need details to help... set-up, temps, vitamin > > supplements, lighting, > > how long has she been with the male, how old is she, > > etc. > > > > Julie B. > > > > Chad Mayer wrote: > > > > >Hi all. Ive got sick klemmeri female. She seems > > to > > >have had a bad shed, and then the male was > > harrassing > > >her a bit too. Anyway, she started to lose weight, > > so > > >I separated her. She was listless, and wont eat. > > I > > >have managed to dribble a little "nectar" mix on > > her > > >snout a few times, but she doesnt appear to be > > eating > > >anything more than that. She has perked up > > slightly, > > >but its been a week now and she isnt putting on > > weight > > >as far as I can tell. She has access to fruit > > flies, > > >houseflies, pinheads, mini-wax worms, anything that > > >she would normally respond to, but doesnt seem > > >interested. How can I get her eating again? > > >Thanks, > > >Chad > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >Yahoo! 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