Hi Leann and Julie.  Leann, your statement was more
accurate, I was trying to be brief and didnt mention
that I was adding calcium to the T-rex mix, as well as
dusting all prey items.  However, I was not feeding
daily, and I think the first mistake was in not
separating the female from the male after she laid. 
Unfortunately, she passed in the evening.  Im
incredibly bummed, but perhaps I learned a good
lesson: these beautiful little animals need more
attention than I was prvoviding.  Im just sick about
losing her.  But, I cant let that distract me from the
others and providing more fully for them.  
Thanks to all who offered advice.  It was a tough
loss, but I think my care for these little guys may be
better in the future because of it.

BTW, Ive got two juvies that are growing quickly, and
the adult male seems to be doing well.  Any advice
about indtroducing another female to him when the time
is appropriate?  I am going to surmise that it
shouldnt be done until the female is fully grown, but
beyond that?
Thanks,
chad

> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:57:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chad Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gecko]Re: sick klemmeri female
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Roger.  Duh, what was I thinking.  Setup is a large
> Oceanic tank of unknown gallonage 30X24X12 (lxwxh).
> Lighting provided by 4 compact fluorescents of 60
> watts each.  Temp range of 75-90 during the day, 73
> at
> night.  Misted twice daily, humidity in the tank
> builds up nicely at night.  Been with the male 1.5
> years, shes approximately that old.  I was running
> under the "no uvb required if high lumens provided"
> philosophy, but I think thats the culprit.  Diet has
> been FF, crix, and the Trex day gecko diet, mixed
> with
> baby food, honey, and calcium.  FF and crix dusted
> with rep-cal and herptivite.  She produced two
> clutches, probably too close together.
> My diagnosis: calcium deficiency due to insufficient
> UVB and two clutches.  Im going to hazard a guess on
> this one, but some people have mentioned how
> supplement sensitive klemmeri are.  Im going to say
> that although the high lumens obviates UVB for MOST
> day geckos, if youve got a reproducing female
> klemmeri, this may not be sufficient.  An aggressive
> and "interested" male doesnt help either.  Thought I
> had cooled them sufficiently....but I was wrong.
> She is now getting some Neocalglucon and plenty of
> uvb.  Ive seen her perk up a bit, but still not
> eating
> if I dont put the nectar right on her snout.  If by
> tomorrow I dont see her in hunting mode, Ill force a
> wax worm or maybe FF larvae on friday.  Other
> suggestions?  Maybe a mush of various bugs instead
> of
> the wax worm and/or FF larvae?  Ive got plenty of
> bugs
> to choose from...termites, houseflies, WW, FF of two
> species, crix, earthworms, etc...
> Any help appreciated, shes thin.
> Chad
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:13:44 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Chad Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [gecko]Ill klemmeri female
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Hi all.  Ive got sick klemmeri female.  She seems
> to
> > have had a bad shed, and then the male was
> > harrassing
> > her a bit too.  Anyway, she started to lose
> weight,
> > so
> > I separated her.  She was listless, and wont eat. 
> I
> > have managed to dribble a little "nectar" mix on
> her
> > snout a few times, but she doesnt appear to be
> > eating
> > anything more than that. She has perked up
> slightly,
> > but its been a week now and she isnt putting on
> > weight
> > as far as I can tell.  She has access to fruit
> > flies,
> > houseflies, pinheads, mini-wax worms, anything
> that
> > she would normally respond to, but doesnt seem
> > interested.  How can I get her eating again?
> > Thanks,
> > Chad
> > 
> > 
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:04:38 -0800
> > From: Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [gecko]Ill klemmeri female
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Organization: Gecko Ranch
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Hi Chad,
> > 
> > We need details to help... set-up, temps, vitamin
> > supplements, lighting, 
> > how long has she been with the male, how old is
> she,
> > etc.
> > 
> > Julie B.
> > 
> > Chad Mayer wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi all.  Ive got sick klemmeri female.  She seems
> > to
> > >have had a bad shed, and then the male was
> > harrassing
> > >her a bit too.  Anyway, she started to lose
> weight,
> > so
> > >I separated her.  She was listless, and wont eat.
> 
> > I
> > >have managed to dribble a little "nectar" mix on
> > her
> > >snout a few times, but she doesnt appear to be
> > eating
> > >anything more than that. She has perked up
> > slightly,
> > >but its been a week now and she isnt putting on
> > weight
> > >as far as I can tell.  She has access to fruit
> > flies,
> > >houseflies, pinheads, mini-wax worms, anything
> that
> > >she would normally respond to, but doesnt seem
> > >interested.  How can I get her eating again?
> > >Thanks,
> > >Chad
> > >
> > >
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