Hi Chad... You may be right, but Leann will probably disagree with you. At least she's had success keeping Phelsuma without UVB bulbs, including klemmeri. I had problems at one point because I was keeping them with UVB, but insufficient calcium/vitamin supplements because I thought a great insect gutload would work... not! My belief is you need both. I'd get at least one new Reptisun 5.0 on her ASAP.
Doug Johnston -- Chad Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Roger. Duh, what was I thinking. Setup is a large Oceanic tank of unknown gallonage 30X24X12 (lxwxh). Lighting provided by 4 compact fluorescents of 60 watts each. Temp range of 75-90 during the day, 73 at night. Misted twice daily, humidity in the tank builds up nicely at night. Been with the male 1.5 years, shes approximately that old. I was running under the "no uvb required if high lumens provided" philosophy, but I think thats the culprit. Diet has been FF, crix, and the Trex day gecko diet, mixed with baby food, honey, and calcium. FF and crix dusted with rep-cal and herptivite. She produced two clutches, probably too close together. My diagnosis: calcium deficiency due to insufficient UVB and two clutches. Im going to hazard a guess on this one, but some people have mentioned how supplement sensitive klemmeri are. Im going to say that although the high lumens obviates UVB for MOST day geckos, if youve got a reproducing female klemmeri, this may not be sufficient. An aggressive and "interested" male doesnt help either. Thought I had cooled them sufficiently....but I was wrong. She is now getting some Neocalglucon and plenty of uvb. Ive seen her perk up a bit, but still not eating if I dont put the nectar right on her snout. If by tomorrow I dont see her in hunting mode, Ill force a wax worm or maybe FF larvae on friday. Other suggestions? Maybe a mush of various bugs instead of the wax worm and/or FF larvae? Ive got plenty of bugs to choose from...termites, houseflies, WW, FF of two species, crix, earthworms, etc... Any help appreciated, shes thin. Chad > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:13:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Chad Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [gecko]Ill klemmeri female > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi all. Ive got sick klemmeri female. She seems to > have had a bad shed, and then the male was > harrassing > her a bit too. Anyway, she started to lose weight, > so > I separated her. She was listless, and wont eat. I > have managed to dribble a little "nectar" mix on her > snout a few times, but she doesnt appear to be > eating > anything more than that. She has perked up slightly, > but its been a week now and she isnt putting on > weight > as far as I can tell. She has access to fruit > flies, > houseflies, pinheads, mini-wax worms, anything that > she would normally respond to, but doesnt seem > interested. How can I get her eating again? > Thanks, > Chad > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced > search. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 00:04:38 -0800 > From: Julie Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [gecko]Ill klemmeri female > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Organization: Gecko Ranch > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Chad, > > We need details to help... set-up, temps, vitamin > supplements, lighting, > how long has she been with the male, how old is she, > etc. > > Julie B. > > Chad Mayer wrote: > > >Hi all. Ive got sick klemmeri female. She seems > to > >have had a bad shed, and then the male was > harrassing > >her a bit too. Anyway, she started to lose weight, > so > >I separated her. She was listless, and wont eat. > I > >have managed to dribble a little "nectar" mix on > her > >snout a few times, but she doesnt appear to be > eating > >anything more than that. She has perked up > slightly, > >but its been a week now and she isnt putting on > weight > >as far as I can tell. She has access to fruit > flies, > >houseflies, pinheads, mini-wax worms, anything that > >she would normally respond to, but doesnt seem > >interested. How can I get her eating again? > >Thanks, > >Chad > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! 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