Hi Amin,

Rather than doing that I would suggest to have a burst length in beats for each 
memory type. That in combination with its interface width enables it to 
determine for each request it sees how to chop it up. As mentioned earlier, 
this requires the memory controller model to be extended to reason about 
"system" packets vs "dram" packets and assemble the responses properly.

Andreas

From: Amin Farmahini <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, 19 June 2013 15:48
To: gem5 Developer List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Andreas 
Hansson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [gem5-dev] Review Request 1927: mem: replacing bytesPerCacheLine 
with DRAM burstLength in SimpleDRAM

Hi Andreas,

I have one more question for you. tBRUST in all DRAM configurations in gem5 is 
based on 64-byte cache lines. Some DRAM configurations such as 
LPDDR2_S4_1066_x32 has a x32 interface and a burst length of 8 (8 beats per 
burst). So in these configurations, two BL8 are needed for a 64-byte memory 
request. To account for that, I am adding a new parameter called 
bursts_per_request. So, for LPDDR2_S4_1066_x32, bursts_per_request is 2, while 
for DDR3_1600_x64, bursts_per_request is 1. Would you let me know your thoughts 
on this? Shall I go ahead?

PS: As we discussed earlier, I plan to add parameters such as bus_width in bits 
and burst_lenght in beats to my new patch.

Thanks,
Amin


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Ali Saidi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Since we don't support (to my knowledge) different caches with
different cache line sizes in the same system, perhaps it does make
sense to make it a parameter on the system level. I don't think it
should be a compiled constant however.

Ali

On 19.06.2013 11:40,
Andreas Hansson wrote:

> Hi Amin,
>
> I think there are two things
here:
>
> 1. don't use the cache line size as a "unit" in the DRAM
model. We agree on this and your patch is a good start.
> 2. Should we
drop peerBlockSize and put a cache line size parameter (or even
compile-time constant?) at the system level?
>
> Andreas
>
> From:
Amin Farmahini 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> Date:
Wednesday, 19 June 2013 11:30
> To: Andreas Hansson
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> Cc: Nilay
Vaish 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>,
 gem5 Developer List
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> Subject: Re: [gem5-dev]
Review Request 1927: mem: replacing bytesPerCacheLine with DRAM
burstLength in SimpleDRAM
>
> I agree with dropping peerBlockSize.
>
For now, we only support cache line size of 64 (32-byte lines are also
supported, but in terms of timing they are treated as 64-byte cache
lines).
> I don't like the idea of a cache line size parameter to the
system. We should make DRAM model independent of cache line size. DRAM
should not care what the cache line size is. DRAM controller deals with
the memory request size, not the cache line size. Most SoCs are
connected to devices with different cache line sizes.
> If the request
size is the same as dram burst size, then we are fine. If it is larger,
then we panic. In the future, we can support splitting requests larger
than 64 bytes.
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> Forgot to send it to the group.
>
> Amin
>
> On Wed, Jun 19,
2013 at 11:18 AM, Andreas Hansson
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
 wrote:
> On
that note I'd suggest we completely drop the peerBlockSize and the
>
"impression" that we can have different cache line size at different
parts
> in the system. We could add a cache line size parameter to the
system.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Andreas
>
> On 19/06/2013 11:14, "Nilay
Vaish" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
 wrote:
>
>> On
Wed, 19 Jun 2013, Andreas Hansson wrote:
>>
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Hi Nilay, You cannot compute this from params as the cache line size is
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>> This means that you are assuming what the
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