I thought I pretty clearly said 'partially', while your new message
begins with "limitations of x86 = Windows insecurity".  A minor
quabble :)

The x86 architecture indeed allows code execution from the stack and
data segments (you could store opcodes and data inside registers and
stack pointers and execute them, no harm no foul).  This is what
renders buffer overflow exploits and stack smashing attacks on
Linux/i386 so common, even among Linux/i386 as we have seen in the
past.

The other part of the equation is the fact that for years and years
Microsoft has been focused on bells and whistles as opposed to
security.  Fortunately, things are turning around now.  (Theo de Raadt
and the other OpenBSD members are and have been focused singlemindedly
on code auditing at the expense of modern features).

This is what allowed Microsoft to gain popularity and market share!
Their features and their continuing support of legacy programs
throughout their entire product line.  When the market told them to
increase focus on security, they listened.


On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:07:17 -0800 (PST), John Hebert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same here. The OpenBSD project seems to have no
> problem writing a pretty secure OS with the x86
> architecture.
> 
> Andrew, can you elaborate?
> 
> --- shrek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I might be confused, but what "architectural
> > limitations" caused
> > Microsoft to write buggy/bad code?
> >
> > - Dennis
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:59:29 -0600, Andrew Baudouin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm starting to wonder if maybe the architectural
> > limitations of x86
> > > aren't partially to blame for the insecurity of
> > Windows....
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:14:01 -0600 (CST), Brad
> > Bendily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > if they'd just port it to x86.
> > > >
> > > > Amen brother!
> > > >
> > > > > The market is practically begging for a
> > > > > secure, reliable, "standardized" OS to get
> > away from Windows.  If OSX ran
> > > > > on x86, i think it would be real competition
> > for Linux, especially for
> > > > > people/companies moving to Linux to get away
> > from Windows.
> > > >
> > > > We can all hope and pray for this to happen. I
> > dunno they released
> > > > a headless mac. That's a move in the right
> > direction. Maybe the
> > > > next step will be release OSX for x86! I think
> > you're right,
> > > > I think a lot of people would be very interested
> > in running
> > > > a smooth looking solid running OS that already
> > has lots of vendor
> > > > support.
> > > >
> > > > Wait, i'm already doing that! Well, OSX would be
> > cool too!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BB
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