Wow! I'm glad I was browsing jakarta-general today - interesting and
enlightening discussion.
Re: influencing Sun: be sure to participate (or send feedback, or whatever
they let you do) in JSR's of interest like Ceki was organizing. Many of
them do listen, even if the end result isn't always what you suggest.
Also, there are Apache implementations that will be shipping with JDK 1.4 -
Xalan (originally from Lotus) is the XSLT transformer reference
implementation in JAXP 1.1, and a newer version will be in the JDK 1.4
extensions directory. I was doing an informal survey of Apache project's
use at JavaOne recently and *lots* of products and companies are using our
stuff. Just wanted to note that it's not *all* bad news.
IMO, there will still be plenty of room for Apache projects to compete even
against built-in features in future JDK's. One thing that will really help
this long-term is continuing to improve all our project's coordination and
documentation - especially user-level documentation. I think both of the
commons'es and the recent projects on getting a site-wide docset building
from XML are excellent steps - we just need to keep working on this kind of
issue.
- Shane, xml-xalanite, xml-commons instigator
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