> -----Original Message-----
> From: Endre St�lsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: What are we doing in regards to JDK 1.4?
>
>
>
> Isn't it actually quite cool that Sun is including lots of
> functionality
> with it's Java core? I kind of feel that this is among what
> makes Java so
> extremely cool, that a _lot_ of commonly used functionality
> is already in
> the core. And you're guaranteed that it will be there when
> you deploy your
> little program somewhere else. This, of course, especially
> goes for the
> native parts of the language, like GUI and Connections and other HW
> interfacing parts.
>
But this adds to larger JVM installs and increases the size of
installed applications. In today's JVM if I don't need reg-ex in my
application then I don't have to take the storage space hit. A package or
two might not seem like a lot, but when you add up all the separate packages
they have added (Swing, Collections, java.text, etc) you start seeing the
bloat. When you distribute an application with a JRE, your installer size
keeps growing and it takes your users longer and longer to download and more
and more disk space to install.
What I really think should happen is that Sun should manage the
language (things like syntax, language enhancements and things that abstract
the hardware). If they want to, they could have a separate group that
programs extensions, but these should be optional and not bundled with the
JVM (after all, bundling with a package is what got Microsoft in trouble).
Randy
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