On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

Henri Yandell wrote:

On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

-1 on these points

1. There should not be an escape from the pain of the incubator. All new projects must go through the incubator and endure. Commons sandbox was created prior to the incubator.

Nope, all new communities must go through the incubator, not all new projects (well, components).

So basically if I call my project a component I don't have to go through the incubator just YOUR

Nope, poor explanation on my part. Code created within the Apache community does not have to go through the incubator at all. The only bit component refers to is related to Martin's point - it describes Jakartas scope - or at least the scope that I think we're arriving at after years of subprojects becoming tlp.

3. -1 to the form of this proposal which seems overly coarse grained or not nearly detailed (I'm not sure which)

Sounds about right - response so far suggests I need a lot more in the proposal - and it's probably better to go with the JLC vote next so the sandbox issue would be more obvious (things would be going from Commons Sandbox to JLC grouping).

So far that seems like more commons mess. Thus far I've failed to see what makes it not more of the same (aka commons).

The usual chestnut :) You say communities, I say community.

Agreed, the JLC proposal is completely yet more commons mess. Why's the 'yet more' part of this negative?


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