Hi Danny, Danny Angus wrote on Monday, May 21, 2007 10:47 AM:
> On 5/21/07, Jörg Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Any attempt in any kind of direction has been vetoed down > and for me it is pointless to bring the same arguments again > in a new thread. > > Jorg, > Searching through my mail I don't really see you advancing any > "arguments" about the future of Jakarta. > > Perhaps you could consider repeating them for the benefit of those of > us who didn't hear what you said? Well, I follow the discussion quite for a while and anything was already said or proposed by other people and I could not add something new. So I limited myself to vote. > It would be sad if people who have an opinion choose not to express it > in a thread explicity about the future of Jakarta on the pmc list > just because it may have already been expressed in Commons dev or poi > dev or wherever else. IMHO it does not help, repeating the same arguments. > On the other hand if there really is the level of apathy which the > inactivity in this thread hints at then the choices are pretty clear. So, here you do imply something ;-) But to recap, we had 1/ Open-up Jakarta to all committers, was vetoed 2/ Merge commons into Jakarta, was vetoed 3/ Move commons into own TLP, was vetoed So what's left in your opinion? I don't buy the Jakarta=Java-Portal solution, since I believe it fails the doing. Option 2 would have been my personal choice, since - we keep the brand - we state that we're Java centric - we wrap a greater community about "matured/left-over/maintained only" components Any Jakarta project that feels uneasy because it - has an isolated community - has a broader scope than "Java" should consider a TLP Option 3 from above was raised, because 2 did not make it and it would have forced the Jakarta left behind projects to make a real statement of their own. Now we're stuck to the status-quo and I see no way out of it anymore (<sarcasm>or should we try to start a vote on those issues in periodic times of 6 months unless one of it passes?</sarcasm>). Out of ideas, Jörg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]