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Seems to me the spirit of Gentoo is not to 'compete' with redhat or any other distribution. Being more a meta-distribution allows the user to control what they have on there machine. That and the portage systems keeps my machine up to date with the software I choose to install. It also allows me to avoid rpm dependency nightmares. (Anyone remember what it was like installing Xine on RedHat?) If a company can not understand those issues, (Linux != RedHat) they should stick with Redhat, and more power to them. But to expect Gentoo to become like RedHat seems to me a way of limiting choice. Educate the companies.. do not dumb down Gentoo! my 2 cents - -- Robert Spahr http://www.brainwrench.com PGP Public Key http://www.brainwrench.com/rob/public_key On Thursday 03 April 2003 09:23 am, Josh McCormack wrote: > Trying to understand the perspective of the 'business people,' as > we call them in mixed company, I can kind of understand. > > First off, Redhat is like the IBM/Microsoft of Linux, so selling > management on why Linux != Redhat is a challenge. So lets say you > tell them they can run their ancient, junky machines and they'll > scream and the security is serious, and it's updated like every 20 > seconds, and they bob their heads around like you're getting to them. > Now you need to close the deal. > > Redhat has training classes, certification, and professional services. > Reassuring. Mitigated risk, is what those business types call it. > And version #s make life easier for some people. > > Seems reasonable to me to come out with a CD every 6 months with > the stable, tested Gentoo of that moment, easily updated each 6 months, > and offer training (& a book) and certification. I'd personally > lean toward making the CD have a nice installer with hardware detection, > possibly built off of Knoppix. Anyone else find this interesting? > > Josh > > >Date: Wednesday, 02 April 2003 18:00:57 -0600 > > From: Mitchell James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Save address] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] survey: gentoo corporate usage? > >[Show all headers] [Printer-friendly version] > > > >We are using Gentoo for image generation systems used for high end > >training simulators (our product). The IT department supplies Redhat > >for the desktop systems. This is more a problem of IT being able > > to get > > >certified training on Redhat and therefore something that they feel > > that > > >they can put on a resume for the next job. > > > > Also IT is not interested in having current updates on the desktop, > > all > > >they want is one stable load that can last several years before > > the next > > >update. They have just decided to go to Redhat 8.0 from 7.2. That > >should happen in the next year. Most of the desktops still run > > Windows > > >2000 or earlier. > > > >Gentoo must have a CD distribution with certified training classes > >before it has a chance at my company. > > > >I also have had problems acheiving a stable configuration and wouldn't > >recommend your standard desktop user be exposed to that much pain. > > > >Mitchell James > > ==================================================================== > EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://kralweb.com/mail > ==================================================================== > Need cheap webhosting? Visit: http://genialt.no > ==================================================================== > > > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+jE8W/+o2J7d7xT0RAgUZAJ9mj/7N3vGS6JTO3/j5ifomtGKqBgCg0pKX D/7zqPGBI99OEtsVhbQJrS4= =NmAH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list