Another way to put the point in Klaus' P.S. is that SRM, while reducing 
*net* anthropogenic forcing, continues to increase to *gross* anthropogenic 
forcing.  Humans intentionally deploy an additional forcing agent.  CDR by 
contrast reduces both *gross* and *net* anthropogenic forcing.  See "Framing 
an Ethics of Climate Management for the Anthropocene 
<https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-014-1182-4>" (2015)

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 5:24:17 PM UTC-7, klaus.lackner wrote:
>
> Your point that what matters “is the change to the environment as is, not 
> a notional baseline” summarizes the notional difficulty.  Why would you 
> think of the environment created through careless global energy engineering 
> as the environment as is? It would be an insult to engineers to blame them 
> for changes they did cause, but the change in the climate is the direct 
> result of engineering decisions on energy that chose to ignore one of the 
> largest waste streams humans produce.
>
>  
>
> Klaus
>
>  
>
> PS I see a gradation, between just cleaning up after emissions, to 
> choosing the climate you like.  Cleaning up, does not feel all that much as 
> geo-engineering. Note that SRM is not cleaning up, it is pushing the same 
> system in yet another direction, because the unintended shove we gave the 
> system, has created warming. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From: *'Oliver Morton' via geoengineering <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>>
> *Reply-To: *"[email protected] <javascript:>" <
> [email protected] <javascript:>>
> *Date: *Saturday, February 24, 2018 at 06:12
> *To: *geoengineering <[email protected] <javascript:>>
> *Subject: *[geo] Re: Intention matters in Climate Engineering
>
>  
>
> I'm team Preston/Robock: intention matters. cf David, in 2000 -- confusing 
> messing something up with engineering is an insult to engineers 
> (paraphrased, from memory) 
>
>  
>
> On CDR as climate geoengineering. Modality is very different from solar 
> geo, but there are some clear similarities. Both decouple climate futures 
> from cumulative emissions. Both require an analysis and a decision 
> mechanism for deciding what final climate is desired (unless CDR is limited 
> entirely to net zero, not net negative
>
>  
>
> On whether returning things to as they were means that it isn't 
> geoengineering (Klaus's point); I think the thing that matters is change to 
> the environment as is, not to a notional baseline of what it would have 
> been if not for a, b c etc
>
>  
>
> I'm reminded of a distinction made by the satirist who used to write under 
> the name of Peter Simple: To be a conservative is to oppose all change -- 
> including change designed to return you to the conditions of the past. This 
> is what distinguishes a conservative from a reactionary. In political terms 
> that is quite weighted -- but it is a real distinction. To actively reduce 
> CO2 ppm would be a more radical option; to sit at where one gets once one 
> is at net zero is more conservative. 
>
>  
>
>
> On Saturday, 24 February 2018 01:12:10 UTC, Leon Di Marco wrote: 
>
>    EASAC has, in its recent report on NETs , ignored the fact that NETs 
> are simply another form of mitigation and instead  incorrectly placed 
> mitigation as a priority over NETs .   This is a fundamental error caused 
> by the notion that it is better to prevent pollution at its source than 
> trying to clean up the whole pool of pollution itself.   A similar 
> discussion is going on in the ocean plastic pollution space.    Clearly, 
> as  a society, we are aware that our actions add up and we can all as 
> individuals do something to mitigate pollution of a given type, but that 
> doesnt mean that we dont have to clear up the mess that we have already 
> created.     
>
> And as has been posted separately, the Chinese are attempting to clean up 
> the particulate pollution in the air in their cities caused by coal power 
> plants using huge filtration towers - the mitigation approach would have 
> been to switch off the power plants.
>
> Clearly this year is of special importance for the debate as the IPCC 
> process is going to put these issues before policymakers in various forms.  
>   There is already some sign that new US policy instruments for carbon 
> dioxide removal will influence that discussion.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> This is from Peter in another thread. 
>
> *One of the distinctive properties of CO2 is that it distributes itself 
> uniformly and so removing a CO2 molecular by flue gas capture and by Direct 
> Air Capture have identical impacts - and are thus both pure mitigation 
> approaches . The only distinction is that DAC can remove CO2 that was 
> previouslly emitted by flue gas so it has the additional capability to deal 
> with overshoot. In  this frame DAC is clearly not geoengineering any more 
> than any human activity is geoengineering because as all know too well 
> small emissions by individuals when there are billions of us is 
> geoengineering our plant by changing its climate . *
>
>  
>
> Plus an extract from an early piece from Steve Rayner who was involved in 
> framing the Oxford Geoengineering Princliples-
>
>  
>
>
> http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/rsis/nts/HTML-Newsletter/Insight/NTS-Insight-jun-1102.html
>  
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>
>  
>
> *NTS Insight June 2011*
>
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>
> *Climate Change and Geoengineering Governance*
>
>  
>
> *By Steve Rayner.*
>
>  
> How Might We Geoengineer the Climate? 
>
> The first thing to emphasise is that geoengineering technologies do not 
> yet exist, although some of the components that might go into them are 
> already available or are under development for other purposes. For example, 
> carbon sequestration in geological formations, which is already being 
> explored for conventional carbon capture and storage (CCS) from power 
> stations,3 
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>  would 
> be an integral part of a geoengineering programme to capture CO2 from 
> ambient air by artificial means. However the front end of the system – the 
> removal of CO2 from ambient air – is currently only available on a very 
> small scale for use in submarines, where the very high cost of the current 
> technology is justified. In discussing geoengineering, therefore, it is 
> important not to fall victim to Whitehead’s (1919) fallacy of misplaced 
> concreteness, and talk about the comparative merits and drawbacks of 
> geoengineering technologies as if they were already well developed and 
> known.
>
> Second, it is essential to recognise that the term ‘geoengineering’ 
> currently encompasses a wide variety of concepts exhibiting diverse 
> technical characteristics with very different implications for their 
> governance. There is a tendency in some circles to seek to exempt favoured 
> technological concepts from the category of geoengineering, leaving the 
> term to apply only to big, scary or impractical options. This paper resists 
> that impulse precisely because, as has just been argued, the technologies 
> are really just ideas at this stage, and it is important not to close in 
> prematurely on which technologies require specific levels of governance.
>
> However, the very variety of technologies suggests the need for a 
> preliminary taxonomy of technology concepts that identifies salient 
> characteristics for both research and governance considerations.
> Developing a taxonomy of technology concepts 
>
> *Solar radiation management (SRM) and carbon dioxide removal (CDR)*
>
> The Royal Society (2009) identifies two principal mechanisms for 
> moderating the climate by geoengineering. One involves reflecting some of 
> the sun’s energy back into space to reduce the warming effect of increasing 
> levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. This is described as solar 
> radiation management (SRM). The other approach is to find ways to remove 
> some of the CO2 from the atmosphere and sequester it in the ground or in 
> the oceans. This is called carbon dioxide removal (CDR).
>
> *Ecosystems enhancement and black-box engineering*
>
> The Royal Society (2009) also recognises, but gives less prominence to, 
> another way of discriminating between geoengineering technologies, one 
> which cuts across the distinction between the two *goals*, SRM and CDR. 
> Both goals can be achieved by one of two different *means*, described 
> below.
>
> *Table 1: Geoengineering for climate change: taxonomy of technology 
> concepts.*
>
>  
>
> *Carbon dioxide removal (CDR)*
>
> *Solar radiation management (SRM)*
>
> *Ecosystems Enhancement*
>
> Ocean iron fertilisation
>
> Stratospheric tools
>
> *Black-box Engineering*
>
> Air capture (artificial trees)
>
> Space reflectors 
>
> One is to put something into the air or water or on the land’s surface to 
> stimulate or enhance natural processes. For example, injecting sulphate 
> aerosols into the upper atmosphere imitates the action of volcanoes, which 
> is known to be quite effective at reducing the amount of the sun’s energy 
> reaching the earth’s surface; this is one candidate SRM technique. 
> Similarly, we know that lack of iron constrains plankton growth in some 
> parts of the ocean. Thus, adding iron to these waters would enhance 
> plankton growth, taking up atmospheric CO2 in the process. This would be 
> a potential CDR technique.
>
> The other approach to both SRM and CDR is through more traditional 
> black-box engineering. Mirrors in space (either large ones, or more likely, 
> myriad small ones), either in orbit or at the so-called Lagrange point 
> between the earth and the sun, would reflect sunlight (SRM), while a 
> potential CDR technique would be to build machines to remove CO2 from 
> ambient air and inject it into old oil and gas wells and saline aquifers in 
> the same way that is currently proposed for CCS technology.
>
> Combining these two means (ecosystems enhancement and black-box 
> engineering) with the two goals described above (SRM and CDR) creates a 
> serviceable typology for discussing the range of options being considered 
> under the general rubric of geoengineering (Table 1).
>
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> Opportunities and Limitations of Different Approaches 
>
> At first sight, it might seem that the different goals and means 
> represented in Table 1 are alternatives. Some commentators have suggested 
> that geoengineering is itself an alternative to conventional mitigation 
> (e.g., Barrett, 2008; the Royal Society (2009) report has however 
> emphatically rejected this idea). However, closer scrutiny suggests that 
> different techniques may be suited to very different tasks and time 
> perspectives.
>
> Currently, there is much interest in SRM using sulphate aerosols. 
> Observations of volcanic eruptions have shown that the presence of these 
> tiny particles in the atmosphere can effectively cool the earth. The 
> technique is also relatively straightforward, the financial costs involved 
> appear to be relatively modest and such a programme could be implemented 
> quickly. Hence, many commentators see aerosols as a Band-Aid, to stop the 
> earth from getting too hot and triggering a runaway greenhouse effect or 
> other possible climatic emergencies (so-called tipping points).
>
> At the other extreme, air capture of CO2 using ‘artificial trees’ 
> followed by sequestration in spent oil and gas wells or saline aquifers 
> seems a relatively distant and costly prospect compared to aerosols. In any 
> case, as with conventional emissions mitigation, the climate benefits of 
> removing CO2 from the air will take longer to realise because changes in 
> the global average temperature lag behind changes in greenhouse gas 
> concentrations by many years. However, in principle, all the CO2 that 
> came out of the ground could be put back there. Thus, in theory at least, 
> air capture holds the prospect of restoring atmospheric CO2 concentrations 
> to pre-industrial levels over the very long term.
>
> Sulphate aerosols have at least two well-recognised drawbacks. One is that 
> the effects on the earth’s climate may be uneven, possibly causing 
> disruption of the Asian monsoon upon which billions rely for agriculture. 
> Another is that stopping a sulphate aerosol programme in the event of 
> unforeseen negative outcomes would result in a sudden temperature spike, 
> unless drastic compensating emissions reductions have been simultaneously 
> achieved. In other words, the full environmental and social costs of 
> aerosols may be very much higher than the programme implementation costs 
> and there is likely to be a high level of technological lock-in. These 
> drawbacks strongly suggest that SRM using aerosols would be controversial. 
> Public opinion is also likely to be less than favourable towards 
> ‘tinkering’ with earth systems, especially through what could be described 
> as deliberate air pollution. Furthermore, the transborder implications of 
> any deployment of the technology suggest that international agreement would 
> be required; and international agreement on climate actions has proven to 
> be highly elusive.
>
> On the other hand, except where the geological formations used for storage 
> cut across national boundaries, regulation of air-capture technology would 
> seem to be almost entirely a matter for the governments of the countries in 
> which it is implemented.4 
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>  Furthermore, 
> in the event that the technology did have unforeseen negative consequences, 
> there would be no technical barrier to switching the black-box machines 
> off, although it could be argued that vested commercial interests might 
> push to keep them running due to the sunk costs involved.
>
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>
> Geoengineering techniques such as the injection of sulphate aerosols into 
> the stratosphere may mimic the cooling effect caused by large volcanic 
> eruptions.
>
> *Credit*: Game McGimsey / U.S. Geological Survey.
>
> This is the geoengineering paradox (Rayner, 2010). The technology that 
> seems to be nearest to maturity technically and could be used to shave a 
> few degrees off a future peak in anthropogenic temperature – that is, 
> sulphate aerosols – is likely to be the most difficult to implement from a 
> social and political standpoint, while the technology that might be easiest 
> to implement from a social perspective and has the potential to deliver a 
> durable solution to the problem of atmospheric CO2 concentrations – that 
> is, air-capture technology – is the most distant from being technically 
> realised. The two technologies appear to be the bounding cases and other 
> geoengineering technologies fall somewhere in between.
>
> The above brief example of the specificity of geoengineering applications 
> helps to emphasise the Royal Society (2009:47) findings that geoengineering 
> cannot be considered as an alternative to conventional mitigation nor can 
> its merits be evaluated sui generis because the technologies involved ‘vary 
> greatly in their technical aspects, scope in space and time, potential 
> environmental impacts timescales of operation, and the governance and legal 
> issues that they pose’.
>
> Furthermore, the Royal Society (2009:ix) concluded that the ‘acceptability 
> of geoengineering will be determined as much by social, legal, and 
> political issues as by scientific and technical factors. There are serious 
> and complex governance issues that need to be resolved.’
>
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> The Challenges of Geoengineering Governance 
>
> The key challenge of geoengineering governance is that articulated in 1980 
> by the British sociologist, David Collingridge, as the ‘technology control 
> dilemma’. Briefly, the dilemma consists of the fact that it would be ideal 
> to be able to put appropriate governance arrangements in place upstream of 
> the development of a technology, to ensure that all the stages from 
> research and development through to demonstration and full deployment are 
> appropriately organised and adequately regulated to safeguard against 
> unwanted health, environmental and social consequences. However, experience 
> repeatedly teaches us that it is all but impossible in the early stages of 
> the development of a technology to know how it will turn out in its final 
> form. Mature technologies rarely, if ever, bear close resemblance to the 
> initial ideas of their originators. By the time certain technologies are 
> widely deployed, it is often too late to build in desirable characteristics 
> without major disruptions. The control dilemma has led to calls for a 
> moratorium on certain emerging technologies and, in some cases, on field 
> experiments with geoengineering.5 
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>  A 
> moratorium would make it almost impossible to accumulate the information 
> necessary to make informed judgements about the feasibility or desirability 
> of the proposed technology.
>
> However, Collingridge did not intend identification of the control dilemma 
> to be a counsel of despair. He and his successors in the field identify 
> various characteristics of technologies that contribute to inflexibility 
> and irreversibility and which are therefore to be avoided where more 
> flexible alternatives are available. These undesirable characteristics 
> include high levels of capital intensity, hubristic claims about 
> performance, and long lead times from conception to realisation, to which 
> the UK Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution (RCEP, 2008) recently 
> added, in the context of nanoparticles, ‘uncontrolled release into the 
> environment’. Consideration of the control dilemma suggests that it would 
> be sensible to favour technologies that are encapsulated over those 
> involving dispersal of materials into the environment; and those that are 
> easily reversible over those that imply a high level of economic or 
> technological lock-in.
>
> The other key challenge for geoengineering governance lies in the varying 
> degrees of international agreement and coordination that would seem to be 
> required for the different technologies involved. At least upon first 
> examination, carbon air capture with geological sequestration would not 
> seem to require much in the way of international agreement, except where 
> the geological formations chosen for storage cross national boundaries and 
> possibly where facilities are located close to national borders, or where 
> sequestration is to occur offshore.6 
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>  National 
> planning regulations, rules governing environmental impact assessment, and 
> health and safety laws, would seem to provide, at least in principle, an 
> adequate framework for ensuring the responsible management of the 
> technology where there is little prospect of transborder damage occurring 
> to people or the environment. Existing national legislation for the 
> governance of CCS from fixed-point sources (e.g., coal-fired power plants) 
> without an overarching global governance framework underscores this point.
>
> However, the situation seems to be very different with CDR involving iron 
> fertilisation because it involves modification of natural processes that 
> cannot be territorially contained. Similarly, any kind of SRM, whether 
> involving space mirrors (black-box engineering), or cloud whitening or 
> sulphate aerosols (modification of natural processes), would seem to 
> require international agreement even for field trials, let alone deployment.
>
> The Royal Society (2009) suggests that many issues of international 
> coordination and control could be resolved through the application, 
> modification and extension of existing treaties and institutions governing 
> the atmosphere, the ocean, space and national territories, rather than by 
> the creation of specific new international institutions. All geoengineering 
> methods fall under provisions of the 1992 UN Framework Convention on 
> Climate Change (UNFCCC) and the 1997 Kyoto Protocol which impose a general 
> obligation to ‘employ appropriate methods, for example impact assessments, 
> … with a view to minimizing adverse effects … on the quality of the 
> environment, of projects or measures undertaken to mitigate or adapt to 
> climate change’ (UN, 1992). Additionally, there are several customary laws 
> and general principles that would apply to such activities. For instance, 
> the duty not to cause significant transboundary harm is recognised in many 
> treaty instruments7 
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>  and 
> by customary international law. As the Royal Society (2009:40) observes, 
> ‘[s]tates are not permitted to conduct or permit activities within their 
> territory, or in common spaces such as the high seas or outer space, 
> without regard to the interests of other states or for the protection of 
> the global environment’.
>
> The use of sulphate aerosols for SRM may fall under the jurisdiction of 
> the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer as they 
> may have ozone-depleting properties. Ocean fertilisation has already caught 
> the attention of the 1972 Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution 
> by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter and its 1996 Protocol (known as the 
> London Convention and Protocol), which has adopted a cautious approach to 
> permitting carefully controlled scientific research through a 2008 
> resolution agreeing that the technology is governed by the treaty but 
> exempting legitimate scientific research from its definition of dumping. 
> The Convention on Biological Diversity has also sought to intervene to 
> prevent ocean fertilisation experiments except for small-scale experiments 
> in coastal waters.8 
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>
> Potentially lengthy negotiations would be necessary before sulphate 
> aerosols could be deployed by any country or other agent within an agreed 
> international governance framework.9 
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>  Without 
> such a framework, such activities would likely attract the condemnation of 
> the international community.
>
> Overall, the international legal framework within which geoengineering 
> will be conducted remains as under-specified as the technologies 
> themselves. Furthermore, the control dilemma means that it is almost 
> impossible to determine governance requirements until the shape of any of 
> the technologies under consideration is better known. This dilemma led the 
> Royal Society (2009:61) to recommend establishing an international 
> scientific collaboration to ‘develop a code of practice for geoengineering 
> research and provide recommendations to the international scientific 
> community for a voluntary research governance framework’.
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> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 3:52:53 AM UTC, Christopher Preston 
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> An introductory blog piece about why intention makes a difference in 
> climate forcing. 
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