That's why we need a Gimp PRO, Inkscape PRO, Scribus PRO - someone, a
Firm / Govern / Foundation / Linux Distro / Billionaire ...or a
mixture of them must hire core developers of all 3 projects - put them
into a big WEB / DTP Core Linux project
and manage development and releases.
This will bring us - a single, unified 2D HQ rendering / printing
core. Same advanced vector tools and similar vector manipulation
methods on all 3 applications ( which need to work as a unit ) . Same
live effects for vectors and rasters >> imagine how easy you can move
Objects, Layers, Groups between applications just using drag-and-drop.
Finally, the same HQ quality for print, the same PDF export engine.
As separate projects - on Open Source World - this process can take
long time from now. Manny years.
So, for all 3 teams we need -> 1. to accept Ideea ( to work on the
same core for something PRO and new ); 2. to find or to found a crazy
legal creature that can fund all development, 3. a good market policy
-> Joe, if U make free plugins with our toolkit - U don't need to pay
for tools - for commercial plugins U have to pay for toolkit /
libraries, etc. 4. At this step - If all OK - we all are OK >> that
mean : Free and PRO versions, free and paid plug-ins / add-ons, free
source, a nice toolkit with the best libs for developers, time (paid
time) for developers - a continuous, sane, development / future for
Open Source Suite, a good way to turn to Linux a bunch of programmers,
a good way to prepare the future -> giving best tools and practices
for IT Universities, ...finally helping Linux to grow faster, helping
world to be free.
A bit strange maybe all that I'm saying here but... so quick (
movement on this direction ), so good. From 2008 MS will leave XP. All
new computers will sell Vista. Before the big moment a lot of users /
enterprises will search around for solutions. THAT will be for Linux
The Day. If Linux will loose momentum, ...hmm, the progress will be
but ..keeping a happy note ( as always ) for the final > let the
GEGL be with us ;)
P.S. Sorry Engel for my response - U ask for something and I told you
well - go on and don't give up with this crazy - because sooner or
later will be real.
and you won't miss the dance.
2007/4/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:19:06 +0200, Hal V. Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Saturday 14 April 2007 08:04, Chris Puttick wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> Forgive me if I have missed this information, but can someone give an
> >> estimate for the release of 2.4? We are trying to move to open source
> >> throughout the organisation, but the graphics team are solidly stuck to
> >> Adobe Photoshop and Gimp 2.4 seems the most likely candidate to replace
> >> it.
> >> Unless the list thinks that 2.4 would not be a candidate to replace
> >> Photoshop?
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >> Regards
> >> Chris
> Release dates don't really exist for Gimp. I asked this same question last
> September and got the same polite silence.
> Due to the nature of Gimp development the new release happens when the
> work is done, rather than setting a target date and trying to get it out
> of the door on time. Development cycles tend to be rather long in general
> so you should probably follow Hal's comments and determine what you need
> and what can or can't be done with Gimp.
> One key thing to bear in mind when doing this is that Gimp does not aim to
> be a free clone of Photoshop. Some things are done differently and while
> the basic tasks are often similar the feature sets are different and
> things are often done differently. There are some things you can do with
> PS that you can't do with Gimp and vice versa.
> As he said you really need one of your graphics team to determine any
> important tasks that you cant manage to do with gimp and ask. It may
> simply be that you have not discovered how to do the task or it may add
> impetus to finish a feature in development.
> > Chris,
> > There is not nearly enough information in your post to answer that
> > question.
> > It depends entirely on the requirements of your graphics team. For
> > example,
> > if they work only with 8 bit/channel images then gimp 2.4 might be a good
> > candidate to replace Photoshop. But if they work with 16 bit/channel
> > images
> > then it is not. But there are lots of other things that need to be
> > considered and your note does not have any information on any if these
> > variables.
> > I would think that the best thing to do would be to find someone on your
> > graphics team who is open minded enough to not get hung up on the
> > differences
> > in the UI who will actually evaluate the available functionality and
> > give an
> > assessment of what things your shop requires and how close current GIMP
> > development is to meeting your needs. However it might be difficult to
> > find
> > someone who will be able to look past the UI differences. If at that
> > point
> > you find that there are features that your graphics team uses and NEEDS
> > that
> > are missing from GIMP 2.3.x (and presumably 2.4 since the feature set is
> > close to being frozen) then you could follow up with the GIMP developers
> > to
> > make sure those things end up in the next version. You might even
> > consider
> > having your organization sponsor (IE. fund) some of that work to ensure
> > that
> > the next release meets your needs.
> > Also keep in mind that there are other open source tools for doing
> > graphics
> > work that might also complement GIMP and provide functionality that your
> > graphics team needs. In other words it might not be GIMP that ends up
> > replacing Photoshop but GIMP plus some other tools and you need to
> > consider
> > your whole graphics work flow to be able to answer the question of how
> > you
> > will go about replacing Photoshop with open source software.
> > Also on a side note I see on your web site that there is at least one
> > stitched
> > mosaic of photos. If you are not already using open source tools for
> > this
> > work might I suggest you try Hugin, enblend and autopano-SIFT. In fact
> > this
> > suite of tools would have done a significantly better job then what I
> > saw on
> > your web site for the image next to "HERITAGE" on your Services page.
> > Hal
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