Considering that they put a lot of time and effort into GIMP 2.8 and that this issue has been being brought up for over a year now, I don't think they "quickly rejected" the idea of a toggle.
There are only two things you can do at this point; 1. Stop using GIMP 2. Get used to the new workflow Honestly, is it really THAT difficult? Sent from my iPod On Jul 19, 2013, at 10:20 PM, "Joseph A. Nagy, Jr" <[email protected]> wrote: > On 07/19/13 20:19, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: >> >>>> In my experience any attempt to teach users good practices will be met >>>> by a few snobbery accusations. Today it's you who issues them. >>>> Tomorrow it will be someone else. >>> >>> It's not your job to teach us anything. >> >> Oh it is :) No matter how much you personally resist. You might as >> well tell us to stop producing the user manual -- after all, if we are >> not allowed to teach you, then let's be consistent about that, eh? :) > > Let me rephrase that: It's not your job to teach us about our workflow. > Everyone works differently. The old way of save/save as worked just fine. > There was NOTHING wrong with it. > >> >>> I understand that concept very well, what happened here though - while maybe >>> an improvement for the professional - is a huge change in the workflow of >>> many, many other users, all of which whom are being ignored or told to shut >>> up and go away. >> >> Nobody is being ignored on this list. And before you argue, I suggest >> you check the definition of "ignore" in a dictionary again. >> >>>> But here's an idea. If using GIMP makes you sulking and soar all the >>>> time (and this is not the first time you are complaining about a >>>> specific change), perhaps it's time for you to think why you want to >>>> invest your time into this unhealthy "relationship"? >>> >>> No, it's not. >> >> It is --- what? Your statement doesn't make sense grammatically. What >> does it refer to? > > Yes it does make sense grammatically, I'm responding to your claim that this > isn't the first complaint I've had about The GIMP (though I couldn't tell you > what that was, I also do not really care). > >> >>> that permanently through some options. This new export/save workflow isn't >>> really all that helpful (though it's not terrible, it's completely foreign >>> to many long-time users, as people keep posting about it are saying). >> >> Many? Do you have solid statistics confirming that? Howe many people >> does ot take to be considered "many", exactly? >> >> If there are e.g.15 unhappy people on the list, is that considered >> "many" against tens or hundreds of thousands of users around the >> world? > > I'd say from the number of people who keep contributing to these sorts of > threads asking for the old way of doing things, it's more than 15 unhappy > people. As for those others, I'm sure if they felt it would change anything, > more of them would complain. > >>> I've already invested many years into using The GIMP, my question to you is >>> why should I learn something else? >> >> Because you are obviously unhappy. > > I'm unhappy about one or two features. I'm unhappy about a lot of things. I > don't like the ports system in FreeBSD, I'm unhappy I cannot build OpenOffice > or LibreOffice with clang. In all those cases, though, nothing else meets my > needs. Windows isn't secure or stable enough. MSO sucks in comparison to > LibreOffice (the only thing I use MSO for is Avery templates as they have > never worked 100% properly in OO or LO). The same with The GIMP. Shotwell > doesn't meet my needs (and may as well be a dead project for as slowly as > it's updated). Inkskape is something completely foreign. Photoshop is > complex, expensive, and unweildly. digikam I can't get to compile/install no > matter what I do. I am also unahppy at how unfree FOSS is, fettered with crap > licenses like the GPL. Maybe I'm a masochist at heart, or perhaps I just > don't like change all that much (I am certainly not in the minority in > regards to the subject of this thread). > >>> Why is that so hard to understand? >> >> The request for a preferences checkbox _is_ understood. And >> respectfully rejected. > <snip> > > If it was really understood, I don't think you all (the dev's) would be so > quick to reject it (respectfully or otherwise). I really do not see how this > new way is so much better EXCEPT when working with new images created /in/ > The GIMP (which I do from time to time). > > -- > Yours in Christ, > > Joseph A Nagy Jr > "Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction > is stupid." -- Proverbs 12:1 > Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. > Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL > http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt > _______________________________________________ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address: [email protected] > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: [email protected] List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
