Duy Nguyen wrote:
> Usefulness is one thing. Another is maintenance and in that regard I
> still think we should be able to remove -v and -vv code (not the
> functionality) with this topic.

Why?  The topic adds good functionality, doesn't break anything,
doesn't paint us into any corner, and has users.  Replacing -v and -vv
can be done eventually, after we get alignment.
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