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The FAA type certificate data sheet states 35 pounds. Jim N87349 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hartmut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Gaylon Fuller'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Coupe-List (E-mail)" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Coupe in Roswell > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > > Hey folks. > " Fabric also weighs many pounds less (I've heard the number 40 > > lb. but can't confirm it.)" > I wonder how this myth came up and why it will stay forever. > When aluminizing the wings one fills the wing with 3 sheets of 0.024 aluminum. > That is aluminum !! Not 1 inch thick steel !! The leading edge is > already aluminized , so are the ailerons. The actual area to be filled > is not soo much that I seriosly doubt a weight increase of 40 pounds. > > The cloth wing is covering the whole wing - all around the leading edge > and needs to be soaked with paint. > Nobody can tell me that paint is weightless. > I bet if fairly compared, the wings do not differ much in weight. > > The reported weight changes are due to some questionable weight > measuring methods after installing the sheet metal covering. > > The planes are not weighted every year and a lot of legal and illegal > installations have been done over the years without checking the weight. > Then when covering the wings the planes have to be put on scales and > whoopla - an increase of 40 pounds.!! > Yes increase of fourty pound over the last 20 years it should be called.. > > Just do your own math . > > Oh and one more thing . I strongly believe that now since the mandatory > holes are in the wings , the cloth wings are not much better off. In > between 20 years a lot can happen corrosion wise. Cloth wing, aluminum wing. > > Sorry I had to vent a little > > Hartmut > > Ed Burkhead wrote: > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > > > Fabric wings - good. Metal wings - potentially bad - get a GOOD inspection. > > Don't assume metal can sit outside better than fabric. Fabric is good > > because every 20 or so years you take it off and fix - really well - what's > > underneath. Fabric also weighs many pounds less (I've heard the number 40 > > lb. but can't confirm it.) > > > > Mice are your worst enemy in terms of corrosion. Keep them out at all > > costs. > > > > No pedals - good for long cross country trips because of the extra comfort. > > Also extra comfort to passengers who are otherwise worried about "touching > > the controls and causing a crash." Not having the ability to slip gives > > rudderless Coupe pilots a keen appreciation of good approach control and > > improves and rewards their skill. > > > > Pedals - good if you want to build time for an aviation career. Otherwise - > > well, they let you keep the plane level while you use both hands to fold the > > maps. (I have pedals so I speak with experience.) You _can_ slip enough to > > increase your decent for improved approach control. You _can_ land one wing > > low up to about 12-15 mph direct cross wind but over that I've leveled the > > wings and touched down in a true, pure, Ercoupe crab. > > > > Ed Burkhead > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gaylon Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:50 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Coupe in Roswell > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > Hey Group, > > > > I went and looked at the Coupe in Roswell today. It was a very > > educational trip. It's being rebuilt by an A&P with and AI assisting. The > > wings were off, so I was able to check the rear spar center sections, and > > the wing inspection holes were open. It is very good shape. It has 100 hr > > engine. Tons of new parts. A bubble canopy, tinted rear windows, Comm, > > Nav-Comm, intercom. It has the ERCO rudder pedals so you steer it like a > > Coupe. Scott master cylinder, Cleveland brakes. It is at a stage that I > > can help with paint, and chose it as well. The present owner has gone to > > great lengths to gather records. I spent about 20 mins on a Micro-Fiche > > viewer today and saw the original bill of sale from ERCO to the dealership. > > Its hard to believe after all my looking, I come down to two planes with in > > 45 miles of each other. The main difference at this point is (fabric wing, > > no rudder pedals) (metal wing, rudder pedals). Input PLEASE :o) > > > > L8R > > > > Gaylon > > > > ================================================================== > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > ================================================================== > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > ================================================================== > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > ================================================================== TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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