Geoff, Your messages confuses me more than most in this thread. If you have conversation view on (the default), then the messages are threaded together, including your replies. They are not split. I'm looking at this thread that way right now. When I hit send, the message that I'm typing now will be at the bottom of my conversation view.
And as a network engineer, I regret to inform you that #2 is not happening. All you're telling yourself that way is that it made it to YOUR server. The sent message present in GMail by default tells you the same thing. You're not actually gaining any information with a BCC. Finally, yes, when GMail detects what it considered a duplicate of a message that it has already, it will delete it automatically. On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Geoff Briggs <[email protected] > wrote: > Several people seem to have a big problem with *why* anyone would want to > BCC themselves and have the BCCed messgae stored in their 'inbox' rather > than in their 'sent' folder. These are the two reasons why *I* want to be > able to do this. > > 1. I would like my replies to messages to be part of the conversation > thread: I want to be able to look at a threaded message and not only see > whether I sent a reply, but also see what I said. If the messages are split > between 2 different folders (labels) then the messages are combined in a > single thread. > > 2. I want to be certain that my messages have actually got out 'into the > ether'. When at work, I have to send messages through my work smtp server, > and the only way I know that any email I have sent has actually left the > local work network is if I BCC myself. If a message returns to me through > BCC, then I know it has also been delivered to the main recipient's system > (even if not to the recipients mailbox). Having a copy of my message simply > copied to 'sent' does not prove the message has been successfully sent. > > As it is, I find that many of my BCCed messages to myself actually end up > in 'Bin', presumably because Gmail realise it's a duplicate (with the copy > in 'sent' and so deletes the additional one! > > > > > On Thursday, 23 May 2013 03:16:06 UTC+1, Frank St. Claire wrote: >> >> Every reply (most of which seem to come from "Zac") dance around the >> problem, which is pretty simple: >> >> *1. You want to have a copy of each email you send sent to yourself as >> if you had manually listed yourself as a bcc recipient -- which is gets >> very old to do manually after you've done it for awhile.* >> 2. While almost every email service (e.g., Mozilla Thunderbird with IMAP >> settings) provides such an option, Gmail apparently does not -- despite >> years of everyone's pleas. >> 3. *You don't want to use conversation mode* -- which some find >> distracting AND >> 4. *You don't want to have to search your "sent" folder for a copy of >> your own email sent to others* (see item 1 above). >> >> and for clarification, this question is NOT: >> >> 1. related to CRM (I don't care whatever that is and don't want to know) >> or >> 2. a philosophical issue. >> >> and finally: >> >> 1. Does Google listen to their users or has it turned a deaf ear to a >> legitimate multi-year request? >> 2. BTW, we accepted Google's limitation of two levels of "nesting" of >> mail folders with its multiple "labels" -- which is probably due to a limit >> in Gmail's design architecture, but >> 3. If this current issue (i.e., *see item 1 in the first paragraph* if >> you forgot to read it there or didn't fully comprehend the simple scope of >> this query) is a design issue here, either: >> a. fix it or >> b. "cowboy-up" to the problem -- instead of using what appear to be >> stalking horse apologists in this user group to qualm the incessantly >> beating drums of discontent from some of your most ardent supporters over >> this simple question. >> >> Thanks in advance to anyone who has the courage and intelligence to >> address this issue directly as presented above (i.e., *see item 1 in the >> first paragraph* above if you have not done so by now) without any of >> the tangential responses evidenced by this multi-year thread to date. >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Gmail-Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Gmail-Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
