> On Tue, 22 May 2001, Kurth Bemis wrote:
> > ah - isn't just like our goverment?
> > gee - rat on your fiends, help us and we'll let you go free
<wink><wink>.
> > but if you don't do extacly as we say we'll throw your sorry ass in
jail.
>
> Personally, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for a criminal. If the
FBI
> took advantage of him -- *good*! He knew he should have gotten legal
advice.
Ouch... cold words..... :)
> He probably thought he could worm his way out of breaking the law, the way
he
> wormed his way into other systems (no pun intended). He got nailed. He
has
> no one to blame but himself. Maybe he won't break the law next time.
The whole idea was that the FBI was going to help him out if he helped them
out. We will probably never know what the FBI told him, but Im sure it was
along the lines of "if you help us in a few cases, the courts will never see
your case and no one will ever know about it"... come on.... its the FBI!
> > Can you really hold on person because the majority of people choose to
use
> > MS email clients.
>
> Just because you do not have bars on your windows does not give me the
right
> to rob your house.
But the fact of the matter is there are people out there that are trying to
rob your house. Some people do it for a living. By putting bars up, you're
taking that much extra measure, and chances are the theif will move on to an
easier target.
> > you can't hold one person responsible for somebody else's poor
> > administration skills.
>
> That is not the issue. Poor administration skills is one problem.
Someone
Although it does go hand in hand. If they had patched their systems, or even
used something other than BIND, it wouldve saved them a lot of headaches.
> breaking into the systems being administered is another. This loser is
not
> being punished because someone else had poor administration skills. This
> loser is being punished because *HE BROKE THE LAW*.
Yes, he broke the law. There is no question about that. I believe what Kurth
was trying to say was all the Administrators that were crying up and down
about the break-in, shouldve taken the necessary proceedures to make it that
much harder to get into the system in the first place. I mean... if an
automated PROGRAM can break into your system, then you obviously have very
weak lines of defense.
> You do the crime, you do the time.
Agreed. He knew exactly what he was doing, and that is why he pled guilty to
his charges. The whole point of the story was to point out how the FBI
really is. They are in it for themselves, and thats it. Do you think that
Max wouldve ever helped the FBI in some cases if they werent offering him
some sort of deal? "Well, we're still going to prosecute you, but can you
find it in your heart to help us with these cases?? pretty please?" I dont
think so.
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