On Sat, 6 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Btw, while I'm inefficiently doing the job using tools I'm not overly familiar 
> with 'because you said so', I'll also be looking elsewhere for employment with
> a company who values efficiency of dictatorial and mindless rules without a decent
> understanding of what they're really in business for."

While I agree with you - linux is something I feel I need to get the job 
done - I disagree with the flip attitude to the 'because you said so'.  IT 
departments in certain companies (ones I've worked for) simply have no 
tolerance for things they can't control, and really, I don't blame them.  
Imagine you not having root on a production system you're supposed to be 
responsible for.  No matter how many times you tell your boss 'Look, I 
don't have root on it' you're still going to be responsible for it.

And even then, imagine you saying 'I don't have root on it'.. what's going 
to happen?  They're going to give you root.  In the IT world, that's 
install SMS & Windows and get the box into a standard, supportable setup.  
It simply doesn't always work.  As much as we'd like to be able to say 
'I'm going to seek employment elsewhere', the truth of the matter is that 
work isn't as easy to find as it once was... like it or not, sometimes you 
have to run windows while you're using the velvet hammer to get them to 
accept the fact that you could do more running linux.  It took me about 2 
years, but I finally got my linux box, and when I did, they lost their 
objection to it.

IMO, with persistence and real world examples, you'll eventually get to 
run linux.  Until then, set up a box somewhere (clandestinely if needs be) 
and get yourself Xwin32 or eXceed or something.  It's not perfect, but 
it'll do for a short time (did for me for 2 years).  

Ben

-- 

We know next to nothing about virtually everything.  It is not necessary
to know the origin of the universe; it is necessary to want to know.
Civilization depends not on any particular knowledge, but on the disposition
to crave knowledge.
                -- George Will


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