On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   Ben> Imagine you not having root on a production system you're
>   Ben> supposed to be responsible for.
> 
> Again, wouldn't happen.  If I'm responsible for it, I own it.  If I 
> don't own it, I'm not responsible for it.  End of story.  I may 
> happen to help or guide the person who is responsible for the system, 
> but ultimately, I won't be held responsible for it.

Exactly the point I was trying to make.  Now, relate this to an IT person 
who's linux deficient and you have your scenario where you end up being 
forced to run windows.  Either the IT person owns it or they're not 
responsible for it.  This exact thing has happened to me.  Eventually, I 
convinced the people that I needed a linux box (and got one of the older 
rotated out boxes for it - and then finally my normal desktop box), but it 
took time - and now that company, well, department has respect for linux.  

A far bigger win then if I had said 'Fine, I quit.  I'm going to find 
someplace that will let me run linux.' and looked like a loose cannon.  
Better that they think I'm a drone then associate linux with such 
behavior.

Ben


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One cannot refuse to eat just because there is a chance of being choked. 


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