On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, at 5:58pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hmmm, I say:  "You hired me to do a job and for my expertise required to
> do that job..."

  I find your stance rather hypocritical, given the involved and heated
debate that once went on in this very forum with regard to whether or not
users should have root access to their workstations, with you weighing in
quite stringently on the "no" side.  :)

  What it basically boiled down to was that corporate IT staff has to
support and maintain corporate IT systems -- including all production
networks and computers that connect to them -- and, in such an enviornment,
with IT staff rightly being held accountable for it all, the IT staff should
have every right to insist you run things "their way".  Now that "their way"  
and "your way" are not mutually inclusive, you suddenly change your tune.

  Don't give me the "I'm more productive on Unix" line, either.  :)  The
productivity argument was put forward during the "root access" debate, and
your position was that reliable corproate operations trumped that, even in
cases where root access was not just a matter of productivity, but being
able to do your job at all.  Your position was that, if root access was well
and truly required, a special lab enviornment, carefully isolated from the
production enviornment, was the only acceptable approach.

  So, Paul, I'm curious: Is there a real difference here, or is it just that
you were getting your way before, and in this semi-hypothetical situation,
you're not?  :-)

  (For those wondering, I personally see both sides as having valid
arguments (in both debates).  I think the issues cannot be simplied to a
blanket statement that works everywhere.)

-- 
Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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