I have been using a computer for home and work apps for probably about 40 years now -- I know the best practices.....but sometimes life gets in the way and an app stays open while I step away and get sidetracked etc....disconnecting it every time from the network isnt gonna happen.....honestly, I also have no idea why MS keeps "updating" when they clesarly said "you PC is no longer going to recieve updates"...but thats a different gripe for a different day. LOL

I do NOT have the "prompt me" box checked as I said but DO have the "autosave" feature turned on. Attached a screenshot of that.

The error only happens when I inadvertently do not manually save and leave the app running when Microsoft does an unanticipated forced update so it is random.....will post again next time it happens.

Thanks for the input all

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On 10/4/2026 10:01 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

Attach a screen grab of your current settings (along with type and version of the OS, and version of gnc) for auto save as that seems to be incorrectly set. This will allow folks here to weigh in.

From what you are saying, it seems like you have done the opposite of what is required to auto-save.

The main pertinent setting I can see (others can keep me honest here) is “Show auto-save confirmation question.” and if you “checked” that then it is doing exactly as it says – its prompting you to save; not automagically save. Secondary important settings for auto-save are the “Auto-save time interval” which should be set reasonable (I keep it at 5 mins) and “Retain log/backup files” which should be set reasonable as well (I keep it at 10 days) but this will consume more disk space. None of these time intervals should be less than one if you want them to be effective.

If you have checked “Enable timeout on ‘Save changes on exit’ question” set to value greater than 1 then it is waiting that many seconds with a prompt when quitting the program (which is what Windows reboot will do – graceful shutdown of the application before killing the process) before it will exit **without** saving if you don’t respond within that time period. This is what your system seems to be configured for doing.

Also if you know that M$ is installing updates in the background without your knowledge, you can either run the computer off the network (by pulling the cord out from the network card) and prevent that or why leave any application open and running without saving anything when you know that for fact? I get that some of the commercial apps (such as M$ Office) have ability to pick up from where you left off after reboot but that is not true of the entire universe of apps. You are looking to invite trouble if you are doing that as it is not the best practice to leave any app open with data files still in use.

*From:*scum buster <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, October 03, 2026 6:37 PM
*To:* Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]>; 'Clint Chaplin' <[email protected]> *Cc:* 'Robert Heller' <[email protected]>; 'David T.' <[email protected]>; [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [GNC] Autosave question

It has NEVER prompted me to save.......I have that popup turned off in the setting. I have the "autosave" option checked.

On 10/2/2026 8:41 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

    If it pops up and you don’t take any action to save then all those
    transactions accumulated since last save will stay pending to be
    saved; you’ll have to click on File àSave to persist them on to
    the disk at your choosing. This would be also the case for when it
    is shutting down because the shutdown process will kill the
    process without saving. If you are automagically looking for the
    system to press  yes for that prompt when you asked for it to
    prompt you then it is not going to do it for you. That dialogue is
    for you to take the action; not for the system.

    Understand the ramifications of not setting up to automatically
    save and have it prompt to you for saving it very thoroughly.
    While option is there to prompt for save, it makes little sense in
    normal use case by a laymen to not automatically save all the time
    at certain interval rather than prompt for it.

    Knowing how GNC behaves, when you said “One of the options was to
    save this time, one was to sautomagically save all the time
    without asking, etc.  I still have it pop up.” that is likely that
    the setting you select during that pop up it is only good going
    forward for that session of the GNC run and not saved persistently
    to the disk. Once you exit and relaunch, it will re-read setting
    from the disk and return back to prompting unless you go into Edit
    àPreferences àGeneral and setup auto-save settings. If you uncheck
    ‘Show auto-save confirmation question’ in there, it will always
    save at that interval without prompting (auto save does **not**
    overwrite existing file; it creates a new file with a timestamp in
    the name of the file). Right underneath is also setting to timeout
    display of that “save now” pop-up so if you do not act within that
    allotted prompt time and system ends up dismissing it due to time
    out then it won’t save and all changes accumulated since last save
    will be pending to be saved as well.

    HTH.

    *From:*Clint Chaplin <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2026 8:05 PM
    *To:* Kalpesh Patel <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Cc:* scum buster <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]>; Robert Heller
    <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>; David T.
    <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>;
    [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [GNC] Autosave question

    One other possibility; the default setup on my windows
    installation was to pop up a window when autosave was triggered to
    ask the user what to do.  One of the options was to save this
    time, one was to sautomagically save all the time without asking,
    etc.  I still have it pop up.  If that option is enabled, what
    happens when shut down?

    On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 4:56 PM Kalpesh Patel
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        That sounds like your backend storage might be the cloud
        storage or you
        have very old drive that is not flushing cache before powering
        down.
        Assuming it is Intel pc, make sure BIOS settings for hard
        drive is set to
        AHCI mode and set it as removable or hot swappable drive type
        which should
        force it to flush cache upon power down command is sent to it.

        -----
        Excuse the typos. It's the mobile thingy!



        On October 2, 2026 6:59:05 PM scum buster
        <[email protected]> wrote:

        >
        > I have it set to autosave and apparantly it ISNT
        autosaving.....its not
        > just one transaction that gets lost...its a bunch, which
        were done
        > during my last session (if I did not manually save it).
        >
        > On 10/1/2026 5:56 PM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:
        >> I have the pre-build binaries of the 4.14 version running
        on Windows and it
        >> auto saves as well. If anything it would only be the
        current in-flight
        >> transaction not saved.
        >>
        >> -----Original Message-----
        >> From: Robert Heller <[email protected]>
        >> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2026 2:29 PM
        >> To: David T. <[email protected]>
        >> Cc: [email protected]; David Carlson
        <[email protected]>; ?
        >> scum buster <[email protected]>
        >> Subject: Re: [GNC] Autosave question
        >>
        >> I'm still using a built-from-source 4.14, and the auto-save
        does in fact
        >> save the file.
        >>
        >> At Thu, 01 Oct 2026 21:42:17 +0530 "David T."
        <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>
        >>> I don't use this feature, but the documentation very
        clearly states:
        >>>
        >>> "Auto-save time interval: This field sets the number of
        minutes between
        >> each automatic saving of the file. Set to 0 to disable the
        auto-save
        >> feature."
        >>> This (and the name of the preference) would strongly
        suggest that the
        >> feature is supposed to, ahem, *save* the file in question,
        and not just toss
        >> up a reminder.
        >>> But, I'm sure I've misread things.
        >>>
        >>> David T.
        >>>
        >>> On October 1, 2026 8:50:27 PM GMT+05:30, David Carlson
        >> <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>>> iirc, auto save is only a reminder, not an action. 
        However, you
        >>>> should be able to import transactions entered after the
        last manual
        >>>> save using the replay logs feature.
        >>>>
        >>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2026 at 7:56C"B
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