Thank you Tino Frederick is correct. Portugals policies towards Muslims and Jews was dictated more by realpolitik than religious considerations. Largely to defend and secure their Asia-Europe trade. Of the twenty cristaos novo taken to Lisbon before the first inquisitors landed in Goa, one was burnt. From the information I have some of the others were released after serving a short prison sentence and managed to leave for ottoman territory. To me it appears the prime motivation was to remove them from Goa. The inquisition was very successful in weaponising heresy to neutralise the perceived threat. Very soon many of the most influential cristaos novo moved to safer regions
On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 at 6:06 PM, Tino de Sa <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting information, Alan. Yes, it is in your remarkable book. > Tino > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 2:45 PM alan machado <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> For details on how inquisitors conducted their investigation on such >> offences, read Lourenco's translation of the process of Catherina da Orta. >> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 2:41 PM alan machado <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> 1561-1623 statistics for OFFENCES for which individuals were prosecuted >>> >>> 1561-1570 1571-1580 1581-1590 1591-1600 1601-1610 1611-1620 >>> Islam 104 82 94 151 36 154 >>> Judaism 55 188 27 14 12 8 >>> Bigamy 24 4 9 17 48 44 >>> Issues of behaviour and heresy 27 50 46 104 82 123 >>> Lutherism 17 8 4 6 5 10 >>> Gentilidade 13 32 56 193 661 574 >>> Crimes against the faith or Inq 51 66 38 67 86 67 >>> not specified 2 4 4 1 >>> sodomy 6 18 36 50 >>> total 293 434 284 571 966 1030 >>> NOTE: prosecutions were for the practice of Judaism, not because someone >>> was a Jew. >>> Total Jews prosecuted during this period >>> 15. >>> Cristao Novo (Christians of Jewish or Morish extract) 337 >>> Cristao velho (Portuguese of non Jewish/ Moorish extract) 608 >>> >>> The Rua dos Judeus was located between Saint Augustine Monastery and >>> Santa Monica. It was probably where Jewish merchants ran their businesses >>> (open to correction). >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 1:01 PM sandra lobo <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm not a specialist in the area. Adding to Alan Machado, I can suggest >>>> the works of Miguel Rodrigues Lourenço - >>>> https://fcsh-unl.academia.edu/MiguelLouren%C3%A7o; >>>> https://www.redalyc.org/pdf/2850/285022064003.pdf - namely a paper >>>> where he discusses historiographic discourses regarding the inquisition in >>>> Goa (Reputação, rigor e autoridade da Inquisição em Goa: da incompreensão >>>> histórica à mitificação historiográfica) - Giuseppe Marcocci - >>>> https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=lHhCe7kAAAAJ&hl=en - and >>>> Bruno Feitler - https://unifesp.academia.edu/BrunoFeitler. All of them >>>> have work that may help illuminating the discussion. >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> >>>> Sandra >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sandra Ataíde Lobo >>>> >>>> >>>> Home (gieipc-ip.org) <https://www.gieipc-ip.org/> >>>> https://praticasdahistoria.pt/ >>>> >>>> tmn. ++351 930690459 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *De:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> em nome de John de Figueiredo < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Enviado:* 6 de julho de 2025 00:09 >>>> *Para:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Assunto:* Re: [GRN] THU: July 3, 2025: Shalva Weil. The Jews of Goa >>>> under the Portuguese >>>> >>>> This description of the activities of the Inquisition in Goa is >>>> misleading. Alan Machado (Prabhu) demonstrated on the basis of original >>>> documents that the primary targets of the Inquisition of Goa were not Jews, >>>> Hindus, and other Non-Christians unless they interfered with the workings >>>> of the Inquisition. The primary targets were Christians. As I noted in my >>>> articles on the practice of Ayurvedic Medicine in Goa, when Gabriel Dellon >>>> was in jail and pretended to be sick, the Inquisitors brought a Hindu >>>> physician to treat him. Machado (Prabhu) also demonstrated that the >>>> Inquisition in Goa was relatively mild compared to the ones in Portugal. >>>> The clear proof of this is the independent testimony of foreign travelers >>>> in the 16th and 17th centuries that there were several synagogues in Goa >>>> and Jews and Hindus were practicing their religion freely in Goa. There was >>>> even a Rua dos Judeus (Road of the Jews) in Old Goa (Velha Goa) which >>>> suggests that Jews were settled in Goa. Yet, as Machado (Prabhu) noted, the >>>> same fictions about the Inquisition of Goa get repeated over and over. >>>> John M. de Figueiredo >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2025, at 9:29 AM, Tino de Sa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> What a terrible pity that the lecture is not available on youtube! Or >>>> is it? >>>> Tino de Sa >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 5:27 PM William Robert Da Silva < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Your explanation is too meagre in historical explanation. The Jews and >>>> early Christians were in West-Coast India very early for trade, continuing >>>> before and after the fall of Rome. Cosmas Indicopleustes etc. are examples >>>> of this and we need to explore more in these areas. What is done is Goa, >>>> Portugal is too meagre to bring out history. >>>> William Robert Da Silva >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 12:07 AM fredericknoronha < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Shalva Weil >>>> *The Jews of Goa under the Portuguese* >>>> Thursday 3.07.2025 >>>> How to watch >>>> This lecture starts on 3 July at 5:00pm (UK). >>>> <https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/email_verifications/new> >>>> <https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/about/subscribe> >>>> Summary >>>> >>>> *Please note this session will only be available to watch live.* >>>> >>>> There may have been early settlement of Jews in Goa, but there >>>> certainly was a Jewish colony there under the Portuguese. However, the >>>> Portuguese set up an Inquisition in Goa and tried many Jews and conversos >>>> or New Christians. They kept alive Garcia de Orta (1501-68), the physician >>>> of the king and a famous botanist, but burned his sister on the stake. By >>>> the 18th century the community of Jews had disappeared but their memory >>>> lingered on in some families to this day. >>>> >>>> https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/lectures/2560-the-jews-of-goa-under-the-portuguese >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/01568723-9a2f-4dcb-b6c1-9e811bfa52f0n%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/01568723-9a2f-4dcb-b6c1-9e811bfa52f0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CA%2BvNr4%2BdyVUhzKkfbo5WQLNKe%3DZ_N6fm89iBKMkJwTzzDCQu6Q%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CA%2BvNr4%2BdyVUhzKkfbo5WQLNKe%3DZ_N6fm89iBKMkJwTzzDCQu6Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Dr. Anthony de Sa, IAS (Retd), PhD**, FRICS, MPA (Harvard)* >>>> *Former Chief Secretary of Madhya Pradesh,* >>>> *Former Chairman, MP Real Estate Regulatory Authority (RERA)* >>>> *Mobile (WhatsApp): +91-9810981818* >>>> *e-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]>* >>>> >>>> * [email protected] <[email protected]>* >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAPf%3Drhv2bLUcBY%2BxCE2K67uCxnFoh_wDg4Bcs1d5NpYFY7HAMg%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAPf%3Drhv2bLUcBY%2BxCE2K67uCxnFoh_wDg4Bcs1d5NpYFY7HAMg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/20433D3C-5FBF-43A2-95BB-6340A2ABD0BC%40sbcglobal.net >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/20433D3C-5FBF-43A2-95BB-6340A2ABD0BC%40sbcglobal.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/BESPR10MB92236823612A38A87CECCADEA54CA%40BESPR10MB9223.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/BESPR10MB92236823612A38A87CECCADEA54CA%40BESPR10MB9223.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAGbzhUB7RsTBVypex6L24rbJJO4487Uf54QPJrUzMS4_d63qpQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAGbzhUB7RsTBVypex6L24rbJJO4487Uf54QPJrUzMS4_d63qpQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > *Dr. Anthony de Sa, IAS (Retd), PhD**, FRICS, MPA (Harvard)* > *Former Chief Secretary of Madhya Pradesh,* > *Former Chairman, MP Real Estate Regulatory Authority (RERA)* > *Mobile (WhatsApp): +91-9810981818* > *e-mail: [email protected] <[email protected]>* > > * [email protected] <[email protected]>* > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAPf%3DrhtG2L6U%3DLSXeCpDy4pDwwTjja2DMD%3D9LNxsLDbowNkJpQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAPf%3DrhtG2L6U%3DLSXeCpDy4pDwwTjja2DMD%3D9LNxsLDbowNkJpQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAGbzhUBdZ6-s%3DMhFBBoyyxHX0WOwXDB1-9vH%3DpAt7wWO6zYhDw%40mail.gmail.com.
