Thank you very much Dr. Pacheco de Figueiredo. Regards
Sonia do Rosario Gomes On Mon, 7 Jul, 2025, 3:31 pm John de Figueiredo, <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Sonia, > I defer this to Alan Machado (Prabhu) who is an expert on this subject. > Best regards, > John > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 7, 2025, at 5:46 AM, Sonia Gomes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am reading Pe. Gabriel Saldanha and a great many times, he mentions > about fields as well as coconut groves removed from the possession of > Hindus and donated to convents and churches for their upkeep. Also Dr. > Leopoldo da Rocha mentions in a monograph of various strictures passed > against various festivities and the personal lives of the Hindus. Even > clothes. Now considering the disruption of lives, the loss of property, > bought by so many Catholics at throw away prices, would this be a part of > the Inquisition? And the kidnapping of orfãos from the Hindu families to be > handed over to the Pai dos Cristãos for conversion to Catholics even if > there were Hindu families willing to bring them up as Hindus. Which part of > Inquisition is this? Or does the Inquisition only deal with torture and > Autos de fé? Dr. Pacheco de Figueiredo would like your opinion. Thank you > and much appreciated. > Sonia do Rosario Gomes > > On Mon, 7 Jul, 2025, 12:52 am Tino de Sa, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This clarifies things, John. And seems to be a fair and accurate >> historical assessment. >> Tino >> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 11:25 PM John de Figueiredo < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I was not referring to FN’s comment, I was referring to the >>> announcement of the lecture “The Jews of Goa under the Portuguese” by >>> Professor Shalya Weil. It says that “many Jews” were tried but Alan’s >>> research shows that only 15 were tried. The focus of the Inquisitors was on >>> Christians, not on Jews or on Hindus. >>> Death by fire was not unusual those days. Before the establishment of >>> the Inquisition in Goa, several homosexuals were killed by fire, and both >>> Goan Christians and Hindus approved their killings. There was also the >>> practice of “sati” (“suttee”). Thus being said, to disinter the remains of >>> a person and burn them and to burn women who were old and poor are horrific >>> displays of religious intolerance and most certainly contrary to the >>> teachings of Jesus of Nazareth under whose name those practices were >>> conducted.. Pyrard de Laval was probably right when he stated that the >>> practices of the Inquisition were excessive even for the standards of the >>> time. What Alan’s research shows is that those practices in Goa were milder >>> than in Portugal. >>> John M. de Figueiredo >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2025, at 8:35 AM, Tino de Sa <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> But John, that is exactly what FN said. The 'Jews' who were targeted by >>> the Inquisition were not because they were ethnic Jews, or Jews who >>> professed and practised the Jewish faith (these were discriminated against, >>> but not subject to the Inquisition), but Jews who had converted to >>> Christianity, but were suspected of - as Christians - practising rituals of >>> their former religion in secret. >>> Tino de Sa >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 4:39 AM John de Figueiredo < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This description of the activities of the Inquisition in Goa is >>>> misleading. Alan Machado (Prabhu) demonstrated on the basis of original >>>> documents that the primary targets of the Inquisition of Goa were not Jews, >>>> Hindus, and other Non-Christians unless they interfered with the workings >>>> of the Inquisition. The primary targets were Christians. As I noted in my >>>> articles on the practice of Ayurvedic Medicine in Goa, when Gabriel Dellon >>>> was in jail and pretended to be sick, the Inquisitors brought a Hindu >>>> physician to treat him. Machado (Prabhu) also demonstrated that the >>>> Inquisition in Goa was relatively mild compared to the ones in Portugal. >>>> The clear proof of this is the independent testimony of foreign travelers >>>> in the 16th and 17th centuries that there were several synagogues in Goa >>>> and Jews and Hindus were practicing their religion freely in Goa. There was >>>> even a Rua dos Judeus (Road of the Jews) in Old Goa (Velha Goa) which >>>> suggests that Jews were settled in Goa. Yet, as Machado (Prabhu) noted, the >>>> same fictions about the Inquisition of Goa get repeated over and over. >>>> John M. de Figueiredo >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 5, 2025, at 9:29 AM, Tino de Sa <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> What a terrible pity that the lecture is not available on youtube! Or >>>> is it? >>>> Tino de Sa >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 5:27 PM William Robert Da Silva < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Your explanation is too meagre in historical explanation. The Jews and >>>>> early Christians were in West-Coast India very early for trade, continuing >>>>> before and after the fall of Rome. Cosmas Indicopleustes etc. are examples >>>>> of this and we need to explore more in these areas. What is done is Goa, >>>>> Portugal is too meagre to bring out history. >>>>> William Robert Da Silva >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 12:07 AM fredericknoronha < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Shalva Weil >>>>>> *The Jews of Goa under the Portuguese* >>>>>> Thursday 3.07.2025 >>>>>> How to watch >>>>>> This lecture starts on 3 July at 5:00pm (UK). >>>>>> <https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/email_verifications/new> >>>>>> <https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/about/subscribe> >>>>>> Summary >>>>>> >>>>>> *Please note this session will only be available to watch live.* >>>>>> >>>>>> There may have been early settlement of Jews in Goa, but there >>>>>> certainly was a Jewish colony there under the Portuguese. However, the >>>>>> Portuguese set up an Inquisition in Goa and tried many Jews and conversos >>>>>> or New Christians. They kept alive Garcia de Orta (1501-68), the >>>>>> physician >>>>>> of the king and a famous botanist, but burned his sister on the stake. By >>>>>> the 18th century the community of Jews had disappeared but their memory >>>>>> lingered on in some families to this day. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/lectures/2560-the-jews-of-goa-under-the-portuguese >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/01568723-9a2f-4dcb-b6c1-9e811bfa52f0n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/01568723-9a2f-4dcb-b6c1-9e811bfa52f0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, 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