I am reading Pe. Gabriel Saldanha and a great many times, he mentions about fields as well as coconut groves removed from the possession of Hindus and donated to convents and churches for their upkeep. Also Dr. Leopoldo da Rocha mentions in a monograph of various strictures passed against various festivities and the personal lives of the Hindus. Even clothes. Now considering the disruption of lives, the loss of property, bought by so many Catholics at throw away prices, would this be a part of the Inquisition? And the kidnapping of orfãos from the Hindu families to be handed over to the Pai dos Cristãos for conversion to Catholics even if there were Hindu families willing to bring them up as Hindus. Which part of Inquisition is this? Or does the Inquisition only deal with torture and Autos de fé? Dr. Pacheco de Figueiredo would like your opinion. Thank you and much appreciated. Sonia do Rosario Gomes
On Mon, 7 Jul, 2025, 12:52 am Tino de Sa, <tinod...@gmail.com> wrote: > This clarifies things, John. And seems to be a fair and accurate > historical assessment. > Tino > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 11:25 PM John de Figueiredo < > johnde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> I was not referring to FN’s comment, I was referring to the announcement >> of the lecture “The Jews of Goa under the Portuguese” by Professor Shalya >> Weil. It says that “many Jews” were tried but Alan’s research shows that >> only 15 were tried. The focus of the Inquisitors was on Christians, not on >> Jews or on Hindus. >> Death by fire was not unusual those days. Before the establishment of the >> Inquisition in Goa, several homosexuals were killed by fire, and both Goan >> Christians and Hindus approved their killings. There was also the practice >> of “sati” (“suttee”). Thus being said, to disinter the remains of a person >> and burn them and to burn women who were old and poor are horrific displays >> of religious intolerance and most certainly contrary to the teachings of >> Jesus of Nazareth under whose name those practices were conducted.. Pyrard >> de Laval was probably right when he stated that the practices of the >> Inquisition were excessive even for the standards of the time. What Alan’s >> research shows is that those practices in Goa were milder than in Portugal. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 6, 2025, at 8:35 AM, Tino de Sa <tinod...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> But John, that is exactly what FN said. The 'Jews' who were targeted by >> the Inquisition were not because they were ethnic Jews, or Jews who >> professed and practised the Jewish faith (these were discriminated against, >> but not subject to the Inquisition), but Jews who had converted to >> Christianity, but were suspected of - as Christians - practising rituals of >> their former religion in secret. >> Tino de Sa >> >> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 4:39 AM John de Figueiredo < >> johnde...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> This description of the activities of the Inquisition in Goa is >>> misleading. Alan Machado (Prabhu) demonstrated on the basis of original >>> documents that the primary targets of the Inquisition of Goa were not Jews, >>> Hindus, and other Non-Christians unless they interfered with the workings >>> of the Inquisition. The primary targets were Christians. As I noted in my >>> articles on the practice of Ayurvedic Medicine in Goa, when Gabriel Dellon >>> was in jail and pretended to be sick, the Inquisitors brought a Hindu >>> physician to treat him. Machado (Prabhu) also demonstrated that the >>> Inquisition in Goa was relatively mild compared to the ones in Portugal. >>> The clear proof of this is the independent testimony of foreign travelers >>> in the 16th and 17th centuries that there were several synagogues in Goa >>> and Jews and Hindus were practicing their religion freely in Goa. There was >>> even a Rua dos Judeus (Road of the Jews) in Old Goa (Velha Goa) which >>> suggests that Jews were settled in Goa. Yet, as Machado (Prabhu) noted, the >>> same fictions about the Inquisition of Goa get repeated over and over. >>> John M. de Figueiredo >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 5, 2025, at 9:29 AM, Tino de Sa <tinod...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> What a terrible pity that the lecture is not available on youtube! Or is >>> it? >>> Tino de Sa >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 5:27 PM William Robert Da Silva < >>> wrdsi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Your explanation is too meagre in historical explanation. The Jews and >>>> early Christians were in West-Coast India very early for trade, continuing >>>> before and after the fall of Rome. Cosmas Indicopleustes etc. are examples >>>> of this and we need to explore more in these areas. What is done is Goa, >>>> Portugal is too meagre to bring out history. >>>> William Robert Da Silva >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 12:07 AM fredericknoronha < >>>> fredericknoro...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Shalva Weil >>>>> *The Jews of Goa under the Portuguese* >>>>> Thursday 3.07.2025 >>>>> How to watch >>>>> This lecture starts on 3 July at 5:00pm (UK). >>>>> <https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/email_verifications/new> >>>>> <https://www.lockdownuniversity.org/about/subscribe> >>>>> Summary >>>>> >>>>> *Please note this session will only be available to watch live.* >>>>> >>>>> There may have been early settlement of Jews in Goa, but there >>>>> certainly was a Jewish colony there under the Portuguese. However, the >>>>> Portuguese set up an Inquisition in Goa and tried many Jews and conversos >>>>> or New Christians. They kept alive Garcia de Orta (1501-68), the physician >>>>> of the king and a famous botanist, but burned his sister on the stake. 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